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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Default JDM 23mm Rear Swaybar - worthwhile upgrade? (did a search)

Only found 1 topic on it, but just looking for some more opinions/experiences...

I know its supposed to let the car oversteer a bit more, but does that 1mm really make THAT much of a difference?
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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I would think an aftermarket sway bar would be more worth your time than an OEM JDM bar...1mm will make a difference, but a Mugen 26mm bar will make a world of difference.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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I sold my 23mm after i installed... i dont feel anything. waste of money if u already have 22mm
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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I sold my 23mm after i installed... i dont feel anything. waste of money if u already have 22mm
that's what im thinking...

bob - i'm intimidated by the 26mm, i've read that its more prone to oversteer..

I guess I should just get a whole season of autox in with the 22mm...i've only autoxed twice , and if i feel like i need some more oversteer, i'll make the upgrade...who else makes a good 26 mm swaybar? i dont want to dish out 300+ for a mugen bar
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Mugen makes a 24mm bar as well might be a little more forgiving than the 26 but noticable over the 22.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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not sure if you want the R to oversteer more...I've never seen someone come on here and say "help, I just understeered my R into a tree"
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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not sure if you want the R to oversteer more...I've never seen someone come on here and say "help, I just understeered my R into a tree"
yup, basically waht I was thinking...I personally have no problem's with the R's handling or any noticeable understeer...But I guess on a track application its different
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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trust me dog you'll be ok. spend your $$ on something else.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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eh, i was just talking to my buddy with a gsr and i noticed their rear sway bars were disgustingly puny, so I figured if the 23mm is a decent upgrade, i'd sell him mine for cheap and pick up the 23, and we both walk away happy
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 04:34 AM
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Here is a good thread - Willard's impressions of the 23mm bar at VIR.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=100159

I plan on installing the JDM rear bar very soon...
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 04:49 AM
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I didn't feel any difference whatsoever.. but then again, I'm not a "road racer".. I drive around town like a jackass and look forward to stoplight confrontations.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 07:53 AM
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thanks...shrug, i should probably have tried some different word combo's with the search...
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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I didn't feel any difference whatsoever.. but then again, I'm not a "road racer".. I drive around town like a jackass and look forward to stoplight confrontations.
seat reclined all the way, 19 inch bling bling chromies, and windshield washer LED nozzleS?
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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It all depends on your driving style. I personally rather have a nutral car with a slight tendancy to oversteer and the JDM sway bar gave me just that. The difference is noticable during hard cornering. This summer I'm going to try the rear upper strut to see if I can tighten up the back end a little more.
I beleive the 26mm Mugen sway bar on stock suspention might be to much and give you to much oversteer.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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seat reclined all the way, 19 inch bling bling chromies, and windshield washer LED nozzleS?
LoL
Joel - who hates those type of jackasses
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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Despite what everyone here is saying I think its one of the best upgrades you can do especially for $100. I have done a ton of track events both with the original bar and the 23mm one, and with the 23mm one the car is much more neutral, the ITR is by far the best FWD car I have driven, but it still understeers a bit too much, with this bar the car is much more neutral and will actually oversteer some in the right conditions. So I'd recommend it, its cheap and easy to do, spend the extra money you'd spend on a mugen for a track day.

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 09:06 AM
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that just about sums it up.

will
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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maxspeeds and Toda Party : yea, exactly. but you forgot.. i got mad NAAAS in the trunk, and a purge for the stoplights too.

oh, and red neon lights under my rear bumper.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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Thats tiziite.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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maxspeeds and Toda Party : yea, exactly. but you forgot.. i got mad NAAAS in the trunk, and a purge for the stoplights too.

oh, and red neon lights under my rear bumper.
get with the times man, its all about the 2-stage red AND green neons, alternating with the strobezzzzz

thanks for ur input everyone, i think i'm gonna go ahead and do it once spring time comes around
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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Hrd to make out the difference i the pics, but:







Before the car felt flat going through sweepers. Now the front almost feels pushed. It makes a great thing even better!!

For $40, I think you'd be silly not to do it . . .

Just my opinion, of course
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Another pic..


1mm may sound like a small amount.... but from a torsion standpoint it is not.

The 23mm unit can be stuffed into the 22mm bushing.

Will
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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*****, where did you purchase the rear bar? why haven't you gotten the 23mm bushings, are they hard to find?
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Not sure about "hard to find" but the bar was for sale (Mike@IPS) as is... w/o bushings.

I was going to mill the stock units out (no big deal) but to my surprise the bar fit (snugly) just fine.

Willis
-who likes the 23mm bushings th0...
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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...any squeak with the tighter bushings Willard? ...and no, not like poly bushings guys...
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