I cannot figure out where im losing my top end, i have a stock b16a1 with a y1 tranny, hasport mounts, stock suspension, k&n intake & breather, borla 2.25 from the cat back, skunk2 shifter, stock clutch, and pr3 ecu.....

shooting no codes, and running on street tires, tell me where im going wrong or what is going wrong

60' 2.275
330 6.434
1/8 9.908
1000 12.924
1/4 15.456
MPH 88.39

Is my knock sensor kicking in and retarding my timing or something, cause in third gear it just feels like a power loss in vtec

my car weighs in at 2210 with me in it and i weight about 190-200

would chipping my ecu, and running no knock sensor and more fuel during vtec fix this lil stupid problem??


Modified by bigblueandyellow at 9:21 AM 5/7/2005

 

gut out the car, get some slicks, do a compression test, advance ur timing, and work on ur 60fts. with all that u should reach 14s. if my bro can hit 14.7s with a y8 swap on street tires, ur b16 should easily be able to hit 14 second runs.

 

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wow, that was the best advice ever

 

i wanna be able to hit 14's on stree tires.....i know its possible....but HOW!!&gt;without slicks of corse

 

whats ur advice then


and by the way i just woke up and im blurting random stuff out

 

ok car was gutted....tires were at 20 psi in the front, 35psi in the back, compression is fine, i still dont get how you guys are running these times, what else do you have done, is ur ecu chipped??? Are you using a V-AFC, or some sort of vtec controller.........what the dillio!?!?!

 

Hey, I wouldn't complain. I'm running 16.2 in Colorado and cannot break it for the life of me. I have not, however, done any sort of compression test. Nor have I advanced the timing. B16 SIR1 LSD Tranny DC Sports header Pacesetter Exhaust and Ebay cold air intake. What gives?

 

Do you use both o2 sensors? are you running the stock cat? and stock header?

 

I see your problem youi have a b16 get a k20a itll solve ur problem right away

 

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lol yes.

btw, how many times have you been to the track?

 

is your b16a maybe from an automatic? do you have your timing within spec? what is your elevation?

 

i bet if you got better suspension your 60' would drop a great deal, and as everyone knows 90% of the race is your 60'

 

Edit: I'm banned!

 

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wtf...

 

your 60'ers aren't bad, but your 1/8 time is kinda high... seems to me like it's not going into vtec... are you sure you don't have automatic b16 cams?

 

I wouldnt even know where to look to find out, i was thinkin of tossing in type r cams, its a cheap upgrade, but im going boost in the winter....would this not be a good combo, or would it be just fine?

 

why dont you start by awnsering some of our questions. ARE YOU USING THE STOCK CAT, ARE YOU USING THE STOCK HEADER, ARE YOU USING BOTH o2 SENSORs.

Yes itr cams will help now, and they will help when your on boost, i had itr cams in my setup. However cams arent going to do **** on the stock header, cat and 2.25 exhaust. You will need to upgrade to 2.5 inch and use an itr header, if your going to boost id wait and get a 3 inch exhaust.,

 

stock header......yes theres a cat, but there is 2.5 exhuast, and yes both o2's work

 

Tune up?

 

fully done, new plugs, wires, rotor, cap, oil, filter, cleaned the k&n just b4 i went too

 

Sell you B16 and get a obd1 b18b1, I raced my freinds **** that we built at a 1/8th mi. tack, it's a '90 hf, pulls a 9.2-9.1 all day with a best of 9.00

 

Take it to a dyno....not a track.

 

I dont care for 1/8 mile runs, plus i call bullshit on a stock b18b1, the things not even a vtec motor, low compression with less hp and around the same torque rating....anyways

should i just toss in gsr cams, or itr cams, which is the better bang for my buck....gsr cams seem to be around $100US and ITR seems to be around $300US

 

one, a b16 has low tq compared to an LS, and spend the extra and go ITR cams, i put them in my b17 and noticed a nice difference

 

Your right it wasn't stock it had bolt ons (headers, 2 1/4" header back, and a homemade short ram intake) but the 9.0 1/8th time is no bs.... bieatch so sell that **** and get a b18b1!!!