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Old May 4, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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as the topic says do u have to be 18 to autocross?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by george34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> as the topic says do u have to be 18 to autocross?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're under 18, you need a valid driver's license and parental consent.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 03:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you're under 18, you need a valid driver's license and parental consent. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep...get proper parental consent or be 18 and autocross...fun and SAFE way

sorry...i was not thinking with my post earlier


Modified by paRRRker at 11:05 AM 5/5/2005
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Old May 5, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Crap PaRRRker don't give him that advice. That puts the whole event at risk when people do that.

By autocross, I am assuming that you are talking about SCCA Solo which runs the majority of the events. No, you don't have to be 18 to run. You do have to get a parental release form signed and notarized and then submit it. The way these events keep being allowed to run is the fact that the club putting it on has insurance. Insurance requires all entrants to have signed a release. Being a minor you signing the release is not valid. The last time I dealt with this if you get the propler form it is good for a year.

Go to http://www.scca.com Look at the region locator and find the club that does the autocross where you are. Contact them and let them know your problem. Or contact the folks at the SCCA national office on the contact us link and talk to people in the Solo department. SCCA allows people under 18 to even club race as long as they have a signed release from their parents.

Don't autocross illegally. If you get caught doing it the organizers are not going to be happy and you may end up with some kind of punishment for doing it (banned or something). Do it right.

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Old May 5, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you're under 18, you need a valid driver's license and parental consent. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This doens't apply to the original poster but it may to others... In some states the age of majority is 19 instead of 18. We have that problem here in Nebraska. I think the other 2 states are Alabama and Wyoming?
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Old May 6, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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I was 15 when I first autocrossed, had to have my dad in car, still race and have to get parents to sign the waivers.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Some groups won't let a minor autocross even with parental consent. Within the past few months some court ruled that a parent can't waive a minor's rights (i.e., sign the waiver on the minor's behalf). I've seen some autocross groups exclude minors for this reason, despite parental consent.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Batoutahell &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some groups won't let a minor autocross even with parental consent. Within the past few months some court ruled that a parent can't waive a minor's rights (i.e., sign the waiver on the minor's behalf). I've seen some autocross groups exclude minors for this reason, despite parental consent.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats terrible. Teens need a safe way to get their "need for speed" taken care of, and running an autocross is so much better than street racing.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Actually that is correct in some states. If the parent can't waive the minor's right to sue for negligence (because the right solely belongs to the minor) and the minor does not have the "legal capacity" to sign a waiver, then yep, a waiver is no good and that is a problem.

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Old May 6, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Thats terrible. Teens need a safe way to get their "need for speed" taken care of, and running an autocross is so much better than street racing.

i agree with you i have a lot of friends that talk about street racing all the time. sry. i don't know how to quote
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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dont ask dont tell
let just say i didnt say that, but that what i did for 2 years.

Josh who not only raced with out a wavier(i was 16 when i started), he just happen to win HS for the year too.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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The point I am trying to make (and this comes from being "management" for my SCCA region) when somebody underage does not do the right thing and get an appropriate waiver signed that potentially jeopardizes not only that region being able to put on future Solo events but can affect every region.

Remember Rally getting canned by SCCA? If "Joe" minor loses control and whacks a streetlight or whatever and gets hurt at the event that can really screw the sport itself.

Barry H.
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Old May 7, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apexinghonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The point I am trying to make (and this comes from being "management" for my SCCA region) when somebody underage does not do the right thing and get an appropriate waiver signed that potentially jeopardizes not only that region being able to put on future Solo events but can affect every region.

Remember Rally getting canned by SCCA? If "Joe" minor loses control and whacks a streetlight or whatever and gets hurt at the event that can really screw the sport itself.

Barry H. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have to agree with you there. If the punishment/penalty was only getting yourself kicked out of an event, that's not a big deal. But since it would affect EVERYONE, do it right and legal. We have enough legal issues as it is, we certainly don't need the ones that have worked out for us being taken away
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Old May 7, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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A few years ago i drove 3 hours to an autox, only to find i was 3 days short of being able to run in it.

the orginization (not SCCA fwiw) had absolutly no problems letting a 17 year-362 day old kid drive but, the event was held on a GM lot. therefore, i could not run because they wouldnt allow minors to participate in events on their lots

lesson learned: call ahead of time to make sure that the orginization AND the place the event is being held allow minors to participate.
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Old May 7, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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I total agree with you guys, but at the time i didnt think to ask and they didnt say anything till the awards banquet that year. My parents knew what i was doing and had no problem with it, it just for them to get up and to sign a release would have been out of the question. Also what about parents who wont sign a release for whatever reason(some of my friend's parents said it was dangerous) they may have. 16 and 17 (hell admitly any young male and some female drivers) year old kids are going to drive fast. Even if they autocross i doubt they all slow down on the streets(i do owe alot of speeding tickets and no accindents in about 70k of driving to the fact i autocrossed), but trust me anybody who had AX a couple times is much safer driver at any sane speed on the street.

Josh who know that yeah there are laws and stuff, is just playing devil's advocate cause he once was kinda of in the same boat as this guys.
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