ZC Tranny Swap
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Hi, I'm about to order a ZC, but to save the trouble of having to buy or modify axles, I want to use my stock transmission (88 civic LX). I have done an engine swap before, but I have never done a tranny swap. Is this something that will be hard to do especially since I've never done it before? I need to make this a quick job. I want the drop in to only take two days. Should I be attempting a tranny swap? Thx
It will work as long as you use an 88 clutch and flywheel. The 88 transmissions have a different spline count on the input shaft than the 89-91 transmissions. Also the 88-89 clutch is smaller than the 90-91 clutch as is the flywheel.
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Will it take long to swap the tranny? I have never done it before. Is it difficult to remove the tranny from the old block and assemble the clutch and tranny back together?
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No it is not that hard. However, it can be time consuming for a 1st timer. Make sure you have a service manual. I recommend the helms manual but the chiltons should suffice.
No it is not that hard. However, it can be time consuming for a 1st timer. Make sure you have a service manual. I recommend the helms manual but the chiltons should suffice.
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No it is not that hard. However, it can be time consuming for a 1st timer. Make sure you have a service manual. I recommend the helms manual but the chiltons should suffice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wat he said.
No it is not that hard. However, it can be time consuming for a 1st timer. Make sure you have a service manual. I recommend the helms manual but the chiltons should suffice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wat he said.
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Thx for the replies. I found the Chiltons here, but I can't find the helms. I would like to find it cause i'm not seeing good reviews on the Chiltons. I found an owners manual here, but no service manual. Anyone have any links?
Edit: is this the correct one? Can I find it cheaper?
Modified by JKingCivicSi at 2:57 PM 5/3/2005
Edit: is this the correct one? Can I find it cheaper?
Modified by JKingCivicSi at 2:57 PM 5/3/2005
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will work as long as you use an 88 clutch and flywheel. The 88 transmissions have a different spline count on the input shaft than the 89-91 transmissions. Also the 88-89 clutch is smaller than the 90-91 clutch as is the flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>I've got a new 88 clutch, but the flywheel, I am unsure of. HMO said the ZC is 88-91 (I don't have it yet thought). Should I just try putting the clutch on, or should I take the flywheel off my old motor?
Right - use your '88 flywheel, just to be safe.
Remove the engine & transmission as one unit, then pull the old transmission off; put the clutch kit and flywheel on the ZC, then put the tranny on and install it all as one unit. Probably a bit ovbious, but I've seen people (including ME) go to the trouble to remove the tranny THEN remove the engine. Takes a lot longer that way...
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Remove the engine & transmission as one unit, then pull the old transmission off; put the clutch kit and flywheel on the ZC, then put the tranny on and install it all as one unit. Probably a bit ovbious, but I've seen people (including ME) go to the trouble to remove the tranny THEN remove the engine. Takes a lot longer that way...
Mike
its not hard at all,
I just removed a shot tranny from my ZC this past weekend and swapped in a Si tranny without removing that torsion bar (not sure what its called). Only thing that was somewhat difficult was benchpressing the new tranny trying to get it to mate with the block.
I just removed a shot tranny from my ZC this past weekend and swapped in a Si tranny without removing that torsion bar (not sure what its called). Only thing that was somewhat difficult was benchpressing the new tranny trying to get it to mate with the block.
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Ok, one more question. My ZC looks like this.


That looks (according to the helms) like a drive plate. Does that mean that this ZC is from an auto? Is the block different from the manual? Better? Worse?
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That looks (according to the helms) like a drive plate. Does that mean that this ZC is from an auto? Is the block different from the manual? Better? Worse?
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that means it is from an auto...its not really different than the manual zc, other than two extra vacuum ports on the intake manifold that you can just plug off...and now you have to get a flywheel and clutch for this engine...
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Having trouble removing the flywheel from the old engine. It seems like I'll need a special honda tool to stop the flywheel from turning while I loossen the bolts. Which means I'll have to wait till monday for honda parts to be open, which means my help will be gone for 1-2 weeks so I'll have to wait to continue working. Is there something else I can use to stop the flywheel without damaging it or stripping the bolts?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d357r0y »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stick a screwdriver through it and use an impact gun on those bolts. 17mm 12point socket
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as special as it gets....if no impact long pipe. I could turn the earth the other way if i had the leverage
</TD></TR></TABLE>as special as it gets....if no impact long pipe. I could turn the earth the other way if i had the leverage
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