I just recently bought a 91 CRX HF its in mint condition. little body work needed which i already fixed. The engine on it now already has 151,000 miles it should run me for a while. I want to do an engine swap, but i do not want to go turbo, i want to go all motor. the problem is i do not know what motor would be best? I need some help choosing! I was think B-20 vtec but i am still a littl iffy. I want my car too be fast and respectable but no turbo its unreliable.

 

You have to specify first how much money you are planning to spend in this project. Then, if this car is going to be daily driven or not. After that, then we could actually give you an educated opinion.

 

here is what me and my friends made up or w.e


kinda like a list price for motors. not that accurate, but this is what we estimated.
most of em are pending too

ZC - $500

d16 - $800 - $1000

b16 - $1500

b18 - $2000

sr20 - $2500 - ????

k20 - 2500 & up

h22a - 2500 & up ( and i would say that this would be the best for an all motor, but instalation i heard is a bitch because of how big the engine is.)

hope this helps. anyone with more precise prices feel free to revise this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by explictness &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is what me and my friends made up or w.e


kinda like a list price for motors. not that accurate, but this is what we estimated.
most of em are pending too

ZC - $500

d16 - $800 - $1000

b16 - $1500

b18 - $2000

sr20 - $2500 - ????

k20 - 2500 & up

h22a - 2500 & up ( and i would say that this would be the best for an all motor, but instalation i heard is a bitch because of how big the engine is.)

hope this helps. anyone with more precise prices feel free to revise this. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, those are very misleading. the b16a costs 1500 to BUY IT. then you have to ship it, add 300, the you need mounts and linkage, add 400, then you need new axles, add 100, assuming you got the swap complete then you need to replace the wear and tear item on the engine like the water punp timing belt and leave extra money for anything else that may not work when the engine arrives, so lets be nice and say another 400 for misc stuff.

thats $1200 you forgot to mention.

and the b18c is worse. the engine is a lot more, you need an obd1 conversion, and please tell me how you put h22a and 2500 in the same line, good lord. the engine tranny combos are arounf 2200 yea, then you need to totally weld it into the car, thats like 3 days work for a very talented welder, so lets say 60 an hour, for 3 days, you do the math.

k20 for 2500 and up. jesus christ the egnine alone is 3500-4000 for the k20a2 (type-s) the type-r goes for $5600.00 the mounts are $750 wiring, axles all the fabrication work involved your looking at easily 10,000. so saying 8,000 if you do it yourself, 10,000 if you dont is a lot more accurate.

to answer the original posters question, for all motor aplications larger displacment really helps. the k series is making great advances. h22's are very popular as well. unfortnatley those are the most difficult swaps for ef's.

whats the sr20? please dont tell me you meant a 240sx motor......

 

my choice would be k20 due to the fact that h22 motors are nothing but trouble, if you miss a gear u are fucked and then there goes all that money.

 

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A friend missed a gear in his h22 and nothing happened. What are you saying?? Missing a gear is tranny/driver related. The motor has nothing to do with that.

 

H22 are tough, I beat mine around plenty. And if you cant drive a stick without missing gears then buy an automatic

 

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yea, those are very misleading. the b16a costs 1500 to BUY IT. then you have to ship it, add 300, the you need mounts and linkage, add 400, then you need new axles, add 100, assuming you got the swap complete then you need to replace the wear and tear item on the engine like the water punp timing belt and leave extra money for anything else that may not work when the engine arrives, so lets be nice and say another 400 for misc stuff.

thats $1200 you forgot to mention.

and the b18c is worse. the engine is a lot more, you need an obd1 conversion, and please tell me how you put h22a and 2500 in the same line, good lord. the engine tranny combos are arounf 2200 yea, then you need to totally weld it into the car, thats like 3 days work for a very talented welder, so lets say 60 an hour, for 3 days, you do the math.

k20 for 2500 and up. jesus christ the egnine alone is 3500-4000 for the k20a2 (type-s) the type-r goes for $5600.00 the mounts are $750 wiring, axles all the fabrication work involved your looking at easily 10,000. so saying 8,000 if you do it yourself, 10,000 if you dont is a lot more accurate.

to answer the original posters question, for all motor aplications larger displacment really helps. the k series is making great advances. h22's are very popular as well. unfortnatley those are the most difficult swaps for ef's.

whats the sr20? please dont tell me you meant a 240sx motor......</TD></TR></TABLE>


well yeah i did say that they arent that presice. LoL. all good tho.

 

whats the sr20? please dont tell me you meant a 240sx motor......


yuppp.... sr20det nissan silvia motor, 1990ish.. lookin bout 3k + shipping, and all other toys. added.. not bad motor, BUT this isnt nissan-tech... its honda-tech...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch1990SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.. not bad motor, BUT this isnt nissan-tech... its honda-tech...</TD></TR></TABLE>

who cares what the **** "tech" this is...talking about putting sr20det motors in hondas is ******* retarded.

 

Im willing to spend 3 grand no more. so i have to see what my options are within that spending limit

 

do a b18a1 - mobs of torque, and all said and done, you'd be out 2500

 

see i have 7 friends that have all missed a few gears but threw it into the wrong gear and they popped the timing belt off and they blew there motor. so thats why im saying h22 isnt good. i think they r junk.

 

see i can drive really good its just it happens to everyone, everybody ends up missing a gear if they get anxious or nervus. Like me i had never missed a gear in the integra when i had it and i ran it for the 1st time at the track and i got really nervus and i missed 3rd, hit the barrier between 1st and 3rd but i hurried up and put it into gear. but what i am talking about is actually putting it into the wrong gear. ran 15.4 missing 3rd in an integra with short shifter, ecu, c.a.i, header, exhaust , hi flow cat, performance spark plugs and wires.

 

add $1000 to all of those engine prices and then see which one you can afford.

 

quick fix=spend the few bucks on a short shifter. They arent junk just because someone is too giddy to drive! but, whatever

 

i would like to know what u can do with 1k that i have i would like to go turbo and cheap. i have 2 d15's hf motors one with 71k and another with 146k both run really strong just 96 hp isent working for me anymore so i will sell them to get one good running d16 turboed and some extra cash if anyone could find it

 

i was in your position a year ago. i have a 89 civic si and decided to build a mild ls/vtec w/ 11:1 compression(integra type r pistons) so i can use 91 pump gas. its been real reliable w/over 10k miles already. it does 13's all day long, but only gets 200 miles to the full tank.