wut would be the best build for an all motor ef that hits 11-12's 1/4? have done some research and have been sayibg lsvetc. is that true?

 

LSvtec is one of the best motors that I know of, buddy of mine had a intake, cat back exhaust and stage 2 racing clutch ran high 14s with crap tires, but it all depends on what you wanna do... all motor I would go with a b18...

 

with 6grand i can have a complete rsx type s swap. or i can get an lsvtec that my cousin is selling me with itr pistons with new rings and minor head work and throw 5 grand into that motor? will i be able to reach my goal with that set up?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrevnef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with 6grand i can have a complete rsx type s swap. or i can get an lsvtec that my cousin is selling me with itr pistons with new rings and minor head work and throw 5 grand into that motor? will i be able to reach my goal with that set up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

get ready for detonation on that ls/vtec... i almost guarantee the k20 would be faster just being stock but like i said to you in all motor forum... you're gonna dish out the green.

 

u have 6 grand? d-mn just go with the b16, throw a greddy turbo on it change the internals and bottom end, you'll be set for a long time... oh, is this your daily driver?

 

yea its also going to be my daily driver. i just want to break 12's atleast.

 

i am also going for all motor

 

if you want the b16 try endyne's website... they got the biz on some pistons (roller wave)

and a stroker kit... do that and go bust some asses and let people look under your hood... the looks on their faces would be priceless.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrevnef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can get an lsvtec that my cousin is selling me with itr pistons with new rings and minor head work</TD></TR></TABLE>

To this day I don't understand why people put ITR pistons in LS\Vtecs. Do people like lowering their compression? That motor needs a set of P30's or PR3's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXDX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want the b16 try endyne's website... they got the biz on some pistons (roller wave)

and a stroker kit... do that and go bust some asses and let people look under your hood... the looks on their faces would be priceless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just curious...but how much would a stroked b16 run all motor?

 

itr best motor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller.91.HB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To this day I don't understand why people put ITR pistons in LS\Vtecs. Do people like lowering their compression? That motor needs a set of P30's or PR3's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

???

with itr pistons you're making 12.5-12.7:1 compression

with p30 you're making about 11.5:1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXDX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">???

with itr pistons you're making 12.5-12.7:1 compression

with p30 you're making about 11.5:1</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm almost positive that with itr pistons you have less compression than with p30's in a stock bore/stroke lsvtec.

 

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I'm almost positive that with itr pistons you have less compression than with p30's in a stock bore/stroke lsvtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on which ITR pistons are used. Here are some compression ratios that I found.

B18a/b block w/ a b16a head and a stock head gasket

P73(B18c5-USDM ITR) pistons will result in about a 11.1:1 compression ratio

P73(B18c-JDM iTR) pistons will result in a 11.6:1 compression ratio

PCT(B16b) pistons will result in a 12.3:1 compression ratio

PR3 pistons will result in a 11.6:1 compression ratio

P30 pistons will result in a 11.9:1 compression ratio

 

just go with a b20vtec, with 6 grand. i personally have owned two b20vtec and ran mid 12's with them in a eg. I spent about 6 grand on both of them. But right now i own a h22 crx and it pulls alot harder then any b motor ive droven.

 

If your on a budget i say go with a built ls/vtec.Me personally k20a all day since thats what im puttin in my 91 hatch.With TWM or hayward ITB's,K-pro,dtr-fab header,and some nice cams with some work on the exhaust side and a a clean up on the intake your looking at 260-270 whp all day

 

http://importbuilders.com/ultimatestreetcar.html

 

I'm hoping to do 12's alll motor with my crx this year.

2000 ITR engine:
Toda spec C cams and valve springs/retainers
Ported intake manifold
68mm STR throttle body
Edelbrock headers
toda flywheel
RC 310cc injectors
RPS Turboclutch
JDM YS1 LSD tranny
running chipped P28 ecu on Uberdata

 

k-series.

 

best no such thing exists.

So you ready to drop 10K or do some fab work? Are you good with working on cars?

that could let help us point you in the right way.

 

h23a botom in h22 head and the 2.5 stroker kit

 

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To this day I don't understand why people put ITR pistons in LS\Vtecs. Do people like lowering their compression? That motor needs a set of P30's or PR3's.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Itr pistons RAISE the compression on a ls/vtec. They can be had cheaper then pr3 or p30 and have a factory coating on them.

 

Id say K SERIES. It will cost ya a lil more...But youll get ALL DA RESPECT.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5itracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your on a budget i say go with a built ls/vtec.Me personally k20a all day since thats what im puttin in my 91 hatch.With TWM or hayward ITB's,K-pro,dtr-fab header,and some nice cams with some work on the exhaust side and a a clean up on the intake your looking at 260-270 whp all day </TD></TR></TABLE>

must be nice... i'm trying to sell my setup to get started on a type s swap.

 

i gotta say, the most feesible plan is the B16a_t. With the right Internals and the right steps....you'll hit 12;s all day. turn the boost down and you got a smoking D.D...It's all about the right setup in the right car. My Hf with my N/A B16 does nothing but make people smile, including myself. I love it. But if you want the most bang for the buck....invest in a wicked/proper b16a_T.
The K series might be the best right now....but it's just the next b series compared to the D series. and there are more T_D series out there that whoop on all B series. As i'm sure most B series_T will whoop on the K model. It's all a matter of $$$ and the Goals.
My vote....
B16a_T
beefed up Retainers/springs
lower the Comp on the pistons
Better bearings on the bottom end.
You'll eat everyone and still get about the OEM SI EPA Gas mileage. hehehe