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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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I wana do an all motor setup....imma be runnin a 97 ex coupe im thinking of getting a b16 and building it and swapping it at one time.... people say ill feel the difference wit b16 head gsr block but i im not sure if das gunna be reliable i need a reliable daily driven all motor .... i want it to be fairly quick.... and i want to be bale to rev out high and nuttin happen im not sure if poor mans type r is the way to go ...maybe you guys can help with the opinions...No flaming LOL i searched....
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish by having it "rev out high?"
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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ill be happy be able to rev to 9k with no problem i jus want my coupe to be kinda quick... na meen? i dont wanna beast right now.. i jus wanna quick coupe ... but my question is i dunno if i shud do da b16 head gsr block or jus buiild a b16 fuull swap which would be reliable... im not sureeeeeeeeeeee.....
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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u can go b20/vtec and itll be reliable...pretty much any combo u go will be reliable as long as you pay attention to putting it together right and using correct torques and break it in the right way. I have PT-R n it runs freakin great dude!

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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yea im thinking bout doing c1 block then....
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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I'd go with the poorman, but maybe I'm just biased Also you do know that u can't just take a stock b16 and rev it to 9k right? You'll need an upgraded valvetrain as well as cams that make power that high or it'll be pointless revving to 9k. And yes, you'll definately feel the upgrade in torque with a b18 bottom end.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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maybe just b18c1 longblock b16 tranny build the head and chip the ecu and leave the block stock...
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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why would a b16 head on a b18c(gsr) block not be as reliable as just a b16?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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i dunno becuase its a miz of two engines just like ls vtec dey sed isnt made to run hard everyday... you get what im saying?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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I get what your saying, but it's a direct slap on. It's not like an ls/vtec where you have to modify anything. Just do it, you have NOTHING to worry about. There are a ton of those set ups on the road!
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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gsr all around is good to right? if i fully build a gsr head itll run just as hard wouldnt it....
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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that b20vtec wont be reliable to 9k.. so i dont know what your thinking
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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immma jus swapp c1 b16 tranny and build the head and leave bottom stock for now
gsr will move..but now i needa find out what parts im going to go with wit my head... i was thinking skunk2 stage 2 cams ferrea head components
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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I'm so god damned tired of hearing the term "poormans type r." That is so ******* <U>dumb.</U> Sorry, had to vent. Now...in a coupe, don't mess with a .6, it won't give you the torque that you're gonna need to get that heavey car off the line. If funds are available, do a B18c5/C. If you don't have the cash, then do a jdm gsr motor.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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yea mean your right.. im thinking of gsr b16 tranny and fully built head....
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frankenfiend 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that b20vtec wont be reliable to 9k.. so i dont know what your thinking</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe you dont know what your thinkin man. if you build it right and get cams to make power that high why wouldnt it be reliable?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm so god damned tired of hearing the term "poormans type r." That is so ******* <U>dumb.</U> Sorry, had to vent. Now...in a coupe, don't mess with a .6, it won't give you the torque that you're gonna need to get that heavey car off the line. If funds are available, do a B18c5/C. If you don't have the cash, then do a jdm gsr motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why is it so dumb? it makes perfect sence to me. a 1.8l vtec block, with a pr3 head. thats exactly what a typeR is, only the typeR has better cams/valvetrain and a slight p&p head stock. now you can spend 5k on a b18c5 or spend a bit less and have pretty much the same thing. sounds pretty smart to me.


Modified by vart at 1:03 PM 10/24/2005
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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^^^and with the right internals more power than the R

I know this thread is a couple months old but I'm thinking of going poor mans type R .....what is the proper timing belt....I have a in the box toda timing belt waiting on my b16A build up ....would the B16 do or do I need a B18 belt?
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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