Just wondering if what you guys think about using Skunk cam gears w/ Toda B's ... Any other suggestions, comments, experiences...? thanks

 

cam gears are cam gears, skunk 2's are a bitch on the Dyno with the 6 bolts, i guess im just lazy, get a set of AEM, but replace the bolts, thats what everyone around me uses, but in general cam gears are cam gears, they all do the exact same job,some are just constructed better, than others

 

Berkel had the AEM's with the B-Specs and had them slip and bend valves twice (on the Mechanics test drive after install.) He went with the Skunks and hasn't had any slippage since. I run the Toda gears with my B's and havent had any problems.

 

Note my reply, change the bolts on the AEM, and your safe

 

Does changing the bolts reduce the chance of slippage? The bolts didn't break or anything on Franz's, they just slipped.

 

you can replace the allen head bolts with normal hex head bolts that require a socket wrench. problem solved

 

No way dude...if you have Toda cams you GOTTA have Toda cam gears!
I mean damn...just the cam gears alone add 15 WHP untuned! Theyre mad tite!

 

So the regular bolts have a larger head to "grip" the gear better? Or does it allow you to torque them down more?

I think if it were me I'd go with a difference brand since the consequences of failure are obviously pretty high.... that's just me though. If people have good luck just replacing the bolts and using the gears with big cams and stiff valve springs more power to them.

 

Where can I buy these Hex bolts? What size are they? Thank You JEFF

 

I have seen post were people using cam gears other then Toda with Toda cams have had cams brake on them. I don’t know if the failure was due to the fact that the people were using cam gears other then Toda. This is what I found on AKH site,

“Some aftermarket campulleys use connecting bolts that are not compatible with TODA camshafts. The use of these bolts could damage the TODA camshafts. If you plan to use TODA camshafts, we only recommend using TODA campulleys to prevent damage to the camshafts. “

Just to be on the safe side I went with the new style Toda gears with my Spec B cams.

 

Another victim of marketing ploys. LOL

 

WTF do the cam pulley connectiong bolts have to do with the type of cam gear you use?

EDIT: Not like Toda cam gears come with special cam bolts (do they?!)


[Modified by HX_Guy, 12:47 PM 1/31/2002]

 

They come with new bolts that have a 17mm head.
Dont ask me why.

 

Thats gay.

So what if you use stock cam gears/bolts...theyre saying the cams will break?!

 

gay indeed.

apparently the stock bolts transmit too much torque from the impact.
The bolts that toda supplies must have some sort of harmonic dampener

 

Hahahaha..yea Im real sure they are "special" bolts.

 

The reason they come with different bolts is because if you use the OEM bolts with the gears, they will rub the valve cover, the Toda supplied bolts have a thinner head to make room for the gear's offset.

and

YES some of us DO NOT run "cut valve covers"


Stinking haters

 

Haters?

Ricers is more like it.

Will
-who likes to have "painted" "bling bling" gears on his car.... where he can't SEE them..

 

Shop around and compare. I did. The toda gears seem to be the best build quality and they look sick! Ask around on this board about who's had slippage problems with toda gears, and who has with other gears. And you'll see why people spend the extra change on the todas.

Buy the todas if you want to install them right away and not worry. Or buy AEM or someone else and have to replace a bunch of bolts and poo poo and always be worrying about it in the back of your mind.

 

I'm using the JUN gears on my Toda B's, and I never had a problem with them.

 

I have never seen any rubbing before.

 

All I'm saying is the head of the supplied bolt and the OEM bolt are different.

I have had two separate cases were they have scraped with the OEM pieces


[Modified by B18CXr, 4:13 PM 1/31/2002]

 

Actually the center bolt they provide is longer. This is to better distribute the forces along the camshaft and minimize chance of breakage from occuring. The B and C camshafts have deeper threads inside the camshaft core for this bolt to insert to. This is why Spec B and C camshafts require Toda gears according to Toda Japan. A's are compatible with any cam gear.

 

interesting.... i will have to test this.

 

The Toda Cam Gears are definitely one of the best on the market, although some may have problems with reading the degree marks (vernier scale). But, that's why they come with instructions.