when taking turns and dragging knees, I know to do all the nessasary down shifts and braking before entering the turn, but should your right foot be positioned on top of the brake pedal? When i am taking turns and half my butt is off the seat, i have trouble keeping/placing my foot on the brake pedal. It's an awkward position. I know some people say not to brake during a turn, but sometimes, it is just absolutely nessasary. Can someone teach me the proper way of doing this?

 

When I'm riding decently hard through corners, I don't hold my feet like that. I put them father back on the pegs, so the ***** of my feet are resting on the pegs. It's much easier to push the bike around that way.

 

thats what i do too, but i wasn't sure if that was safe to do, knowing that something during the turn can cause you to brake

 

***** of your feet

 

so what would one do in a case where you would have to step on the brake during a turn? I wouldn't be able to react quick enough, let alone, get myself back into position to step on the brakes

 

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In that situation you dont want to be hitting the rear brake anyways while leaned over. You need to stand the bike up and get on the front brake. It really sounds like you should get your *** to a msf course man.

 

thus u have discovered one of many dangers of riding hard on the street. u can really only try to avoid what is in front of you if you're hauling *** through a turn. lean it more or run it wide.

 

I know, i really need to take the course. Im still waiting to get in. Thanks for the advice.

 

You cover the rear brake in hard leans??? Are you crazy? What if you panic and tense up and slam on that rear brake? You have any idea what will happen?

***** of your feet on the pegs man

 

braking in turns = highside

highside= bad times


any questions? lol

keep the ***** of ur feet on the pegs... cover the rear brake when doing wheelies.. not when cornering

 

***** of your feet on pegs only works if you're not hanging off like a monkey and sticking your knee out. Maybe I'm not as flexible, but I need to put my toes and the outside of my foot on top of the peg when cornering hard.

My suggestion would be to practice your foot position in an empty parking lot.

 

I forget which book it is, but look into a Twist of the Wrist, it talks about about how braking and accelerating load the front/rear of the bike at different times. Never use the rear brake in a hard turn, you'll be in big trouble before you know it.

 

If you're setting up for a hard turn keep your ***** of your feet on the pegs. Like everyone else is saying why would you want to cover the rear brake? You should never use the rear brake mid turn let alone any sudden braking mid turn (given an open path through the turn). I put pressure on the inside foot on the peg and swing my knee out while the rest of my other leg is pressed against the side of the bike as much as possible for grip, thats including heel, knee, thigh....Buy Twist of the Wrist 2, great read.

 

Inside foot has my toes on the peg trying to keep them tucked as close to the bike as I can. Lately on the outside peg I have been using the arch of my foot. It has really improved the feel of my heel and calf anchor points.

I can hardly use my rear brake while I'm braking in a straight line due to me being a bow legged freak. I need to bend it out one of these days

 

THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU ALL. Well, before i asked this question, thats what i have been doing, placing the ball of m heel on the peg. I really just wanted to ensure that this is proper. As i take the turns, i slow down, shift, and point my knee, toes, half my *** off the seat and lean.

Thanks all!

 

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Not the ball of your heel!

***** of your feet, right where your big toe connects to your foot.

If your a new rider you don't need to be leaning off the bike like you're a pro.

 

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Be safe




Modified by Ross R at 1:41 AM 4/22/2005

 

Yeah be careful on those turns man, they can get ya.

 

well, like people have said, braking during cornering can be very dangerous, but, it can help you control your bike better. in racing, i'm sure most racers trail brake into the turns, especially when they're dicing for the win. I trail brake the front into a corner on occassion but I know this can lead to a low-side crash if you're too hard on it. I've used the rear too in a turn also.

Consider this, racing legend Mick Doohan had a thumb lever mounted to his left clip-on so he can operate his rear brake. he had to do this after crashing one time and injuring his right leg so bad, he couldn't operate the brake pedal. I read somewhere that he uses the rear brake to control his exits out of a turn when he's heavy on the throttle.

Very advanced riding, to say the least. probably a point most of will never reach and should never attempt on the street for sure.

Anyhow, brakes can be used while leaned over in a turn, but very carefully. i'd say experiment trail braking--ON THE TRACK ONLY. you'll learn more about your bike and handling characteristics.

 

Trail braking is continued through the braking process from the straight away, any sudden braking in a turn is going to be bad, especially so when in full lean.

 

I think I read somewhere that you can use the rear brake very slightly if you are running wide on a turn to keep your line tighter. I'm sure this is strictly for racing on the track but I don't think it would be out of the question to use the rear brake if absolutely needed in a lean.. just dont stomp on it.. be gentle

 

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highside= bad times


any questions? lol

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Braking in turns = lowside
Too much power on the exit = highside.

Both break bones.


This might be of use, might not...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945843

As for what part of your foot, well that is normally the ball, you have to get on them as being flat footed leads to grinding your toes. Road gearshift patterns are a pain in the *** IMO, I would convert it to 1 up 5 down, its way easier if you are exiting on the left and need to change up a gear.

Asking what do I do in an emergency when I am hooning around on the road is a bit like what do I do with my hangover after my case of beer, its not really safe on the road to stunt, to race etc, etc. Its up to you if the risks are acceptable to you. Rear brakes in turns dont do much int he way of slowing, more about stability. It is possible to trail the front brakes into an apex, but dangerous. 9/10 if something happens in front of you at speed the best thing you can do is just get off the throttle, getting on the brakes will sit the bike up, or breakaway the rear.

My advice is get on a track day, you will learn more about yourself and your bike than anything the interweb can tell you, plus skills are portable, unlike a noisy fart can and an iridium screen.