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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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i was doing some work on my new 90 civic dx hatch that i just bought today and was wondering why IT has a front sway bar and powering steering and my 93 dx hatch doesnt?? seems wierd, i mean i dont want ps on my 93 anyways but i would of liked to have a front sway bar. the 90 also has some honda rims on it ive never seen before.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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dont 90 civics come with front sway bars anyways? are you sure u arent talking about a strut tower bar?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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any pics?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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No power steering on any EF's...
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls_vtec_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont 90 civics come with front sway bars anyways? are you sure u arent talking about a strut tower bar?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i said. my 90 came with a sway bar (not strut bar) and my newer 93 didnt come with sway bar????
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No power steering on any EF's...</TD></TR></TABLE>

uhhhhh. mine has power steering.

i think you all are misunderstanding what im saying.

my 90 civic dx hatch has:
-power steering
-front sway bar

my 93 civic hatch has NO power steering or sway bar (not that i want it to have power steering)
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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pics......por favor
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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i have never seen or heard of any 88-91 civic with power steering in my life. My post was not mistaken.


The only Ef without a front sway is the crx hf and civic std. Si came front and rear. On Eg only si came with front sway and some 4 doors I think?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jester88Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pics......por favor</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont have any now and its dark outside. ill get some tommorow. what you want pics of?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only Ef without a front sway is the cx hf and civic std. Si came front and rear. On Eg si came with front sway and some 4 doors I think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i know eg si's came with tehm front and rear.

but i find it wierd that a 90 dx would come with one and a 93 dx doesnt come with one? what gives?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have never seen or heard of any 88-91 civic with power steering in my life. My post was not mistaken.


The only Ef without a front sway is the crx hf and civic std. Si came front and rear. On Eg only si came with front sway and some 4 doors I think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats wrong...my 91 hf came with a sway bar....but it has a DA sway bar now..
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No power steering on any EF's...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know all the sedans have it
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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pisses me off because honda ripped me off on a front sway bar for my 93 dx.

i have a gsr bar in the rear though with alum. lca's
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirq2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats wrong...my 91 hf came with a sway bar....but it has a DA sway bar now..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only earlier ones maybe? Like 88, 89 anyone else know?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pisses me off because honda ripped me off on a front sway bar for my 93 dx.

i have a gsr bar in the rear though with alum. lca's</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yeah I don't think it even has mounting holes for the endlinks in the control arms. At least my friends 94 cx doesnt have them.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Yeah I don't think it even has mounting holes for the endlinks in the control arms. At least my friends 94 cx doesnt have them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah.... you have to use integra front lca's...
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirq2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah.... you have to use integra front lca's...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i know but damnit honda got cheap with the 92-95 dx's it seems then. had to cut down costs so they excluded the front sway bar when 88-91 dx's have them.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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I have seen lots of ef civics with power steering. I think the special editions came with them or something. Alot of the sadans have them too. so its not like they don't exist.

My Si came with stock front and rear sway bars
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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Mine has power steering AND a sway bar... of course it's a sedan. And of course, it also now has a rear sway bar.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a gsr bar in the rear though with alum. lca's</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're running a GS-R rear bar and no front? Brave man...
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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You're running a GS-R rear bar and no front? Brave man... </TD></TR></TABLE>

why you say that?? this is on my 93 hatch btw.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Lots of rear roll stiffness usually causes oversteer, especially on a short car like yours. You don't have a problem with the rear wanting to come around on you?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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some of the automatic dx hatchs also came with power steering

case in point - CWBETB's 90 DX hatch



the white container with the red cap is the power steering resivoir

pic taken from this thread - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1215555
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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also ex eg!
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No power steering on any EF's...</TD></TR></TABLE>

NOT TRUE.
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