I just finished bending the lines tonight, and I think it turned out pretty good.



What do you think?

 

looks good, but the foggers look way too close to the head

 

You really do not have much room to work with. It should not be a problem though.

 

i think they look pretty sick.

any bigger pictures?

 

Those pics are big, too big, and i serve will mot let me resize them. I will see what I can do.

 

How do you figure? You see where the stock injector location on those ITB's are? That's where I have mine on 12.42:1CR except I'm running alcohol instead of fuel.

 

Yeah they look sick, but anymore bigger pictures?

 

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For a wet kit you want the jets as close as possible to the valves.

 

this is too big of a pic

 

itb's and nitrous... thats gonna be nuts.

 

I notice the fuel bungs are before the nozzles, that could be bad.

 

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yah thats what I was about to say. I would have ran the NOS before the inejectors. running them after I think your going to have lean issues, but that can go away with tuning. but for the intial burst its going to run lean I think.

what I would have did is run the nos nozles UNDER the ITBS right before where the injectors are spraying. I dont know alot about nos. but I know wet is better.

 

that looks crazy

 

how is a wet shot going to run the motor extra lean

 

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yah thats what I was about to say. I would have ran the NOS before the inejectors. running them after I think your going to have lean issues, but that can go away with tuning. but for the intial burst its going to run lean I think.

what I would have did is run the nos nozles UNDER the ITBS right before where the injectors are spraying. I dont know alot about nos. but I know wet is better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how is a wet shot going to run the motor extra lean its obvious you dont no much aobut nitrous. but, when running a wet shot you match the fuel to the spray in the fogger so that it wont run to lean. coming before or after the injectors wont matter. i do agree on mounting them on the underside only to hide it nice setup man. same thing i had planned

 

Do to the throttle linkage setup, there is no room available on the underside, otherwise that is the way I would have done it too.

 

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how is a wet shot going to run the motor extra lean its obvious you dont no much aobut nitrous. but, when running a wet shot you match the fuel to the spray in the fogger so that it wont run to lean. coming before or after the injectors wont matter. i do agree on mounting them on the underside only to hide it nice setup man. same thing i had planned </TD></TR></TABLE>


The extra fuel in a wet shot is to help neutralise the more direct blast of nitrous in direct port setup. it Might provide enough fuel to prevent a lean situation.

 

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The extra fuel in a wet shot is to help neutralise the more direct blast of nitrous in direct port setup. it Might provide enough fuel to prevent a lean situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok from what i know about n2o thats pretty ignorant....

dry kit = nozzle sprays n2o and fuel injectors make up for the added oxygen content

wet kit = nozzle sprays n2o and also the enrichment fuel, taking the strain off of the injectors

correct me if im wrong......the fuel isnt there to "neutralise" the n2o, its there to make power with the %33 oxygen being sprayed in

 

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ok from what i know about n2o thats pretty ignorant....

dry kit = nozzle sprays n2o and fuel injectors make up for the added oxygen content

wet kit = nozzle sprays n2o and also the enrichment fuel, taking the strain off of the injectors

correct me if im wrong......the fuel isnt there to "neutralise" the n2o, its there to make power with the %33 oxygen being sprayed in</TD></TR></TABLE>

um, you do realise that when nitrous is directly injected into cylinder especially larger shots, it would be easier to run lean and blow if there isnt added fuel? on a dry shot as soon as the throttle body closes between shifts nitrous cant enter the motor, when you shift with a direct setup, nitorus doesnt stop spraying between shifts. and if you shift like a normal person (easing off the gas and pressing the clucth) then you could have a really ugly situation.

 

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um, you do realise that when nitrous is directly injected into cylinder especially larger shots, it would be easier to run lean and blow if there isnt added fuel? on a dry shot as soon as the throttle body closes between shifts nitrous cant enter the motor, when you shift with a direct setup, nitorus doesnt stop spraying between shifts. and if you shift like a normal person (easing off the gas and pressing the clucth) then you could have a really ugly situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well first im not saying im right, nor trying to be a dick, just sharing my knowlege

now yes i do understand it would be much easyer to blow up an engine if you dont add fuel to the n2o, but i believe you are way off on 2 things:

1. i believe most n2o kits will automatically stop spraying durring a shift, that just seems logical to me (basing this from my old zex kit)

2. assuming #1 is wrong, if the kit keeps spraying durring a shift, it will spray both n2o and fuel at the same time (being that its a wet kit) so you would not have any of the problems you are talking about.

also another thing to point out, there are also many wet kits that spray before the throttle body. the "pre-throttle body" kits wether dry or wet are for a smaller shot design, they dont have any way to evenly distribute the mixture to the cylenders other than air flow which can vary quite a bit depending on your intake manifold design. they also have the well known problem of "pooling" in the intake manifold at a lower rpm, when the mixture gets "stuck" in an area of the intake manifold and with any hicup can blow your intake manifold off the motor.....so the direct port wet kit is the most effective from what ive read

 

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it will spray both n2o and fuel at the same time (being that its a wet kit) so you would not have any of the problems you are talking about.

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this was my point thats the reason why direct port kits has extra fuel, now is it enough fuel to prvent a lean burn when..

a. its sitting AFTER the primary injectors
b. The injectors cut during shifts


anyway we will see, hopefully this guy has no issues

 

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is it enough fuel to prvent a lean burn when..

b. The injectors cut during shifts
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i butched your post, but thats what im responding to.....
asuming the tune of the persons engine is perfect (obviously its not but it would be affected the same) it would not matter if the injector sprays less durring the shift, the fuel that the n2o needs is being sprayed by the fuel nozzle, a wet kit works completely independant of the motor.

 

ahhh as you can see, its had 2 ports on each nozzle. blue and red. Im assuming red is for nos. and blue is for fuel. because hes running both fuel and nos thru the same nozzle. It shouldnt matter where the nozzle is put, before or after the injector.

 

the nitrous shouldnt stay on during shifts if its hooked up properly. most use a full throttle micro switch so once you left of the as to shift it will turn off and once you get back on the gas to turn back on. there should be atleast two switches for the nitrous. one to turn the whole thing on. and the WOT switch to activate the nitrous. setup looks really clean

 

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ya i was gonna say...where the injectors normally go looks blocked off....