Axle problem for 1991 civic SiR (EDM civic with b16a in it from the factory)

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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Default Axle problem for 1991 civic SiR (EDM civic with b16a in it from the factory)

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I bought some stronger axles, they are rated 450 whp, but they are too long. it is no problem because i can sent them back but i need to know what axles are right for me.



As you can see it is the middel piece that is to long. The outer joints are perfect.





So please help me out need to know what axles are right for me.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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bump cause i need help !!
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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They will probly fit fine. Its only Slightly longer. The Joints, they kinda compress a little. so I wouldnt be worried.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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i think you'd be fine. but u should let some more h-t'ers confirm this.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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No it is not i had them on my car they are more than an inch longer. And the inner joint transmission side is completly pressed together it looks bad !!!!!

And when you press them together the lenght difference only becomes more see pictures !!!!

not compressed:




compressed :





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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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you can use axles from a 92' integra or 88-91 crx dx/si axles.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allshowcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can use axles from a 92' integra or 88-91 crx dx/si axles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 88-91 axles are unequal length and will not work with the y1 intermediate shaft. The 90-93 integra axles are what I think has there. I believe you can use a hybrid axle that uses an 86-89 integra joint on the 90-93 integra axle. Can someone confirm this please?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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b16 in an ef....wouldn't that mean you'd use all 3 90-93 integra axles?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KraZEtEggIE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 in an ef....wouldn't that mean you'd use all 3 90-93 integra axles?</TD></TR></TABLE>yup, atleast they fit mine :
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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i believe the problem is this....you said you have a sir. sir intermediate shafts are longer then usdm integra intermediate shafts. get your self an intermediate shaft for an integra(which fits in that transaxle as well as the sir one does) keep your axles if you got them for an 90-93 integra 1.8l. after that your good to go..
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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This is some old Hasport info on the subject:
http://web.archive.org/web/200...s.htm

Thanks to 90blackcrx for the link..



Modified by 88DXCRX at 10:53 AM 4/19/2005
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Maybe take some measurements and call the company who sent them, Tell them to take off 'X' amount from the middle.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88DXCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is some old Hasport info on the subject:

http://web.archive.org/web/200...s.htm

Thanks to 90blackcrx for the link..
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can you post the compleet url because the link is not working for me !! Thanks
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allshowcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i believe the problem is this....you said you have a sir. sir intermediate shafts are longer then usdm integra intermediate shafts. get your self an intermediate shaft for an integra(which fits in that transaxle as well as the sir one does) keep your axles if you got them for an 90-93 integra 1.8l. after that your good to go.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

NOt, because the axle in the pictures is transmission side so no intermediat shaft there and that axles is too long as well !!!!!!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchBox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe take some measurements and call the company who sent them, Tell them to take off 'X' amount from the middle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah something like that but to do that accurate you must take away the outer joints for precise measurment.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Opps,Sorry about that..
http://web.archive.org/web/200...s.htm
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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great !!!!

[QUOTE] Due to manufacturing tolerances it will be too long in about 5% of the cars. For these cars, you can make, or have made an axle that is a copy of the axle that comes in the 89-91 Civic/CRX SiR in Japan. Simply take an 86-89 Integra axle and have the 90-93 Integra inner joint put on it. This axle will work with all 88-91 Civics and CRXs with B-series engine installs and does not require the removal of the hub ring and axle dust seal.[QUOTE]

So it looks like the middle piece must be as long as teh middle piece of a 86-89 axle.

Oeps it said so on their site

[QUOTE]For the SiR style intermediate shaft you must use an 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint. These axles are available from http://web.archive.org/web/200...s.com/. They will make them for you if you ask real nice and tell them HASport sent ya[QUOTE]

THANKS TO 88DXCRX for the link !!!!!

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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any more input ??
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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They fucked up.
Did you order "CRX axles"? If so, I think you have an EE8. Did you specify you needed B series axles?
These look like D series axles.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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They fucked up for sure. But those are not D series axles there B's allright and i order for the 'JDM 1991 civic SiR the one with the b16a in it from the factory' I think that is clear enough. Any way they are working on it.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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Well....it's simple.
If they're too long, they're not B series axles are they...?
And I know for a fact, that the D series axle on the tranny side, is marginally larger than the B series.

....just about the same difference in length than I can see on your pictures.

See my point?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Dat is een Ed9 as. And i dont think that there are stronger, just original axels paintet up. Good luck
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:07 AM
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Haha it is nice to have soem input but you have to know what your are saying. They are gator axles !!! I f have had them in me hand they are stronger than oem axles. You can feel by the materiaal.

But 90% of drag racing HT is using Gator's so i don't think Gator will fool them by selling oem axles with a different color.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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Do a search....you'll se looootsa broken gator axles.
They're pretty good... but by far not the best bang for the buck.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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you have three stages and stage 1 are the cheap ones you can stay with oem axles if you pick those. Mean are stage 2, not cheap, rated to 450 whp. I am not making that must so i have a little safty built in ( rather overkill haha )
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