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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Default SPSS Race Konis vs. Stock... and an issue with the brake bracket...

Ordered the front shocks from Chris at redshiftmotorsports, shipped for $515 ish.

removed some stock shocks i had in for a few weeks while I took out the old blown konis.

stock shock vs. koni SPSS race:



BUT, I'm having a problem with the brake bracket. It doesn't seem like it wants to go up any higher:


has anyone else experienced this? I've had these exact same brackets on my old Koni yellows...and they fit fine.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Brake line brackets? I just use zip ties
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake line brackets? I just use zip ties </TD></TR></TABLE>

same here.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: SPSS Race Konis vs. Stock... and an issue with the brake bracket... (AmginE)

BFH. Worked on mine.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake line brackets? I just use zip ties </TD></TR></TABLE>
So, i'm guessing no problem with the pinch fork? if so, EXCELLENT... less weight! woot!

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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I had the same problem with my yellows. I got it on about as far as you and then i put the fork on and pounded it on the concrete until it was high enough to put the bolt in to hold the fork on.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Driven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So, i'm guessing no problem with the pinch fork? if so, EXCELLENT... less weight! woot!
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You can actually gain shock travel by leaving the brackets off and forcing the shock fork up to the "bump" that was where the top of the brake bracket used to be.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jisu009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can actually gain shock travel by leaving the brackets off and forcing the shock fork up to the "bump" that was where the top of the brake bracket used to be.
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Bracket will tend to keep the shock from moving within the pinch-bolted fork. It comes to rest on the shoulder of the shock body and provides a limitng factor. Without it, you rely solely on the clamping force of the pinch-bolt. And the little bolt notch will do nothing to hold the fork in place. The bolt will just press the body in as far up as needed. At least, that's been my experience...

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andy Hollis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Bracket will tend to keep the shock from moving within the pinch-bolted fork. It comes to rest on the shoulder of the shock body and provides a limitng factor. Without it, you rely solely on the clamping force of the pinch-bolt. And the little bolt notch will do nothing to hold the fork in place. The bolt will just press the body in as far up as needed. At least, that's been my experience...

--Andy</TD></TR></TABLE>

It should rest on the same bump that the brake bracket rests on. I have run them like this on my ITA car and my street car. Works fine for me. CRXLee explained how to do this in one of his posts....
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jisu009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It should rest on the same bump that the brake bracket rests on. I have run them like this on my ITA car and my street car. Works fine for me. CRXLee explained how to do this in one of his posts....
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Ok, that makes sense. I thought you were putting the fork somewhere in between.

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: SPSS Race Konis vs. Stock... and an issue with the brake bracket... (Andy Hollis)

I just cut 1/2 of the bracket off and then hose clamp it further up on the shock body.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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That ring is a tight slip fit on the shock bottom and my guess is that the inside diameter of your ring is likely pretty dirty and scuzzy which would be making it extra tight going on. In the pic, it shows a low of dirt, old paint build-up and general crap has already transfered top the bottom of the shock where you have pushed it on which would make it not go as far plus it would pilot not very straight.

I think if you pull the ring off and clean it up and take a wire brush to the ID, it will be much better. Then wipe the dirt off the bottom of the shock and try again. It should go up higher where it belongs. If this does not go quite far enough still, take the pinch bolt out of your lower mounting fork and put the fork on the bottom and tap it with a hammer to drive the ring up where it belongs. If you take a straight blade screwdriver or wedge end chisel and push it into the inch gap on the mounting fork, it will increase the ID and make it slip over the bottom of the shock very easily and easier to push the ring up where it belongs.

As others have said, that ring only serves to locate the brake line bracket and can easily be replaced by a zip tie but I think the cleaning steps above will let you reuse it.

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Default Re: SPSS Race Konis vs. Stock... and an issue with the brake bracket... (CRX Lee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Lee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if you pull the ring off and clean it up and take a wire brush to the ID, it will be much better. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i actually tried this before reading your post... glad we're on the same page.

i actually took a dremel to the brake bracket and got it up pretty high, but not to the groove. so, i'll try it again tomorrow and see if i can get it further (went thru one grind wheel.)

thanks for the advice everyone
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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Default Re: SPSS Race Konis vs. Stock... and an issue with the brake bracket... (Driven)

Scaring me with the dremel...

Just ditch the brake line bracket and use some zip ties.
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