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Re: swap (jesse23)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jesse23 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$3000 or so...
friend will do full swap and everything for 500. Street race/track/daily driver</TD></TR></TABLE>
GSR Swap, but you're gonna have to look hard to get it for 3k to your door. If you cant afford the GSR, then the D15B-T would be a fun project too.
friend will do full swap and everything for 500. Street race/track/daily driver</TD></TR></TABLE>
GSR Swap, but you're gonna have to look hard to get it for 3k to your door. If you cant afford the GSR, then the D15B-T would be a fun project too.
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Re: swap (EVIL Hx Coupe)
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GSR Swap, but you're gonna have to look hard to get it for 3k to your door. If you cant afford the GSR, then the D15B-T would be a fun project too.</TD></TR></TABLE>D16Y8-T would be cooler
GSR Swap, but you're gonna have to look hard to get it for 3k to your door. If you cant afford the GSR, then the D15B-T would be a fun project too.</TD></TR></TABLE>D16Y8-T would be cooler
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From all the reading I have been doing regarding the same topic, I have come to this conclusion:
The D series swap would probably be more practical for someone looking to have fun, experiement, advance a little at a time, and someone whos not looking for a long term project. D series motors seem to reach thier limit fairly quickly after replacing internals and throwing on a turbo.
A B series motor seems like the motor for those who are not that stict on thier budget, probably better for someone with a steady income, and some time on thier hands. I didnt get the impression, as a soon to be college student, that a B series engine would be ebst for me. They have the potential for more power, ubt once you start getting past what the D series CAN put out, I dont know if you will be able to use it legally on the street.
There is basically a split vote on the D or B series motor swap. The D is seriously cheaper, but the B has more potential and is a stronger motor, enabling you to boost on stock internals. I am going with the D, that way I can easily (easy on my pocket and easy to find) buy another motor and work on that out of car, so I dont have to worry about a project rendering my ride undrivable. Leave one in for the daily and build the other one up, really cheap way to go from the info I have gathered.
Also, all of this info I just spit out, it all came from searching, and spending time reading threads, going to toher forums, noticing that the D and B series fued is not only a HT thing. Do some research, see what you find out, there is an assload of info on the very same topic readily available to anyone.
Have a great time deciding, and let me know what ya do, if you decide to run D, maybe we can talk and possibly work together.
The D series swap would probably be more practical for someone looking to have fun, experiement, advance a little at a time, and someone whos not looking for a long term project. D series motors seem to reach thier limit fairly quickly after replacing internals and throwing on a turbo.
A B series motor seems like the motor for those who are not that stict on thier budget, probably better for someone with a steady income, and some time on thier hands. I didnt get the impression, as a soon to be college student, that a B series engine would be ebst for me. They have the potential for more power, ubt once you start getting past what the D series CAN put out, I dont know if you will be able to use it legally on the street.
There is basically a split vote on the D or B series motor swap. The D is seriously cheaper, but the B has more potential and is a stronger motor, enabling you to boost on stock internals. I am going with the D, that way I can easily (easy on my pocket and easy to find) buy another motor and work on that out of car, so I dont have to worry about a project rendering my ride undrivable. Leave one in for the daily and build the other one up, really cheap way to go from the info I have gathered.
Also, all of this info I just spit out, it all came from searching, and spending time reading threads, going to toher forums, noticing that the D and B series fued is not only a HT thing. Do some research, see what you find out, there is an assload of info on the very same topic readily available to anyone.
Have a great time deciding, and let me know what ya do, if you decide to run D, maybe we can talk and possibly work together.
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Here is the situation. Got an oil change at walmart ( i know, i know). Drove car for about a day then all of a sudden heard a knocking. Got worse and worse over next 20 mins, so I pulled over and turned off car. Checked oil and boom...Walmart only put 1 3/4 quart oil in. Knocking is top of engine on left side of head. When i push down on the head i feel it right there. Any ideas what might be blown for sure?
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So im thinking about the following options
Keep saving and Get a GSR
D16y8 with Greddy kit pushing 8-10 psi
d16y8 with eagle rods and Aries 9:1 pistons with turbo kit pieced together
b16a with kit
Ls with kit
Hit me with opinions
Keep saving and Get a GSR
D16y8 with Greddy kit pushing 8-10 psi
d16y8 with eagle rods and Aries 9:1 pistons with turbo kit pieced together
b16a with kit
Ls with kit
Hit me with opinions
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Re: (jesse23)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jesse23 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Keep saving and Get a GSR
D16y8 with Greddy kit pushing 8-10 psi
d16y8 with eagle rods and Aries 9:1 pistons with turbo kit pieced together
b16a with kit
Ls with kit
Hit me with opinions</TD></TR></TABLE>
If walmart fucked up your motor I'd take them to small claims court. There was a guy on here awhile back that had his oil changed at walmart and they stripped his oil pan, he got money out of them because they looked like tards when they showed up.
I would go with the 3rd option. You will have a semi-built motor that will hold up better than a bone-stock turbo'd D series. I wish I had just turbo'd my D instead of buying the B series that is just sitting in my garage right now, waiting for a transmission.
But if you want a high HP monster over time, and you're willing to put the time and money into the car, I would go with the B series. D series will go right in, won't have to change every thing, more money for aftermarket parts. B series you'll need mounts, ECU, blah blah blah, but with time and a lot of money you'll have way more HP.
Another thing to consider if you do go B series is if you want to boost or stay NA. I've heard that the b18b, LS motor, has a lot of low rpm torque, much better for daily driving, and they're beasts boosted.
edit: just my .02
Keep saving and Get a GSR
D16y8 with Greddy kit pushing 8-10 psi
d16y8 with eagle rods and Aries 9:1 pistons with turbo kit pieced together
b16a with kit
Ls with kit
Hit me with opinions</TD></TR></TABLE>
If walmart fucked up your motor I'd take them to small claims court. There was a guy on here awhile back that had his oil changed at walmart and they stripped his oil pan, he got money out of them because they looked like tards when they showed up.
I would go with the 3rd option. You will have a semi-built motor that will hold up better than a bone-stock turbo'd D series. I wish I had just turbo'd my D instead of buying the B series that is just sitting in my garage right now, waiting for a transmission.
But if you want a high HP monster over time, and you're willing to put the time and money into the car, I would go with the B series. D series will go right in, won't have to change every thing, more money for aftermarket parts. B series you'll need mounts, ECU, blah blah blah, but with time and a lot of money you'll have way more HP.
Another thing to consider if you do go B series is if you want to boost or stay NA. I've heard that the b18b, LS motor, has a lot of low rpm torque, much better for daily driving, and they're beasts boosted.
edit: just my .02
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BTW, your rod/main bearings on the 4 or 3 cylinder are probably toast, thats the noise you are hearing. Caused by oil starvation due to Walmart underfilling your oil, try getting some compensation from them, its their fault your motor is trashed.
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lol I've heard so many stories about half-assed oil changes at walmart.
Answer this for me, if you're confident about doing an engine swap, why didn't you change your own oil?
Ever since I got a Honda I've done all my own repairs. Too easy to do yourself than to risk someone else ripping you off or messing up your car.
Answer this for me, if you're confident about doing an engine swap, why didn't you change your own oil?
Ever since I got a Honda I've done all my own repairs. Too easy to do yourself than to risk someone else ripping you off or messing up your car.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jorsher »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol I've heard so many stories about half-assed oil changes at walmart.
Answer this for me, if you're confident about doing an engine swap, why didn't you change your own oil?
Ever since I got a Honda I've done all my own repairs. Too easy to do yourself than to risk someone else ripping you off or messing up your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, especially when they probably use that super-tech stuff that's only .97 a quart. I need my paycheck so I can get that **** out of my car. 2 weeks is too long.
Answer this for me, if you're confident about doing an engine swap, why didn't you change your own oil?
Ever since I got a Honda I've done all my own repairs. Too easy to do yourself than to risk someone else ripping you off or messing up your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, especially when they probably use that super-tech stuff that's only .97 a quart. I need my paycheck so I can get that **** out of my car. 2 weeks is too long.
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