Okay people, I'm gonna try and explain where this is. The batteries for my camera just died, so I can't get any pics up right now.

I just got done building a motor and dropping it in the car. I pulled the fuse for the fuel pump, and turned it over to build oil pressure. The next thing I hear, is oil pouring all over the ground. My oil pressure gauge was reading 0 psi. I had to go get one of my neighbors to turn the motor over, while I watched to see where it was coming from. I finally found it, but dont know why in the hell it is pouring from here.

It is coming from under the distributor. It is a small circle, on the *top* of the block, on the corner that the distributor is on. The head does not butt up to it. I dont know what it is, but when the engine is turned over, oil squirts from there. I took some of my old pics and tried to circle where is was coming from. I have NO clue what this circle is. It looks to me like it is trying to supply oil to the head? Thanks for any help.

 

Cam seal.

 

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Not if its literally squirting everywhere. Put the headgasket on upside down? Is the serial number on the gasket in the front under the dist? If not, its on upside down and will leak like mad.

 

yeup, if the hg isn't on properly it'll leak liek crazy

if you're using the oem hg, the black side is facing up and the serial number is on the tranny side

 

wow. what a kick in the ***. I guess I'll be pulling the head.

 

There is a brass plug that is right above that area in your head. it goes right in to a oil pasage way.

 

Is there any reason it would be pouring oil?

 

I know on my gsr head the guy i bought it from had his oil presure gauge there, I tryed to get the fitting out and ended up breaking that chunk off of the head and have to have it tig welded up.

 

well, that wouldn't be it. the head was being ran in the car before dissasembly. I'm just gonna have to ****** it off and see what is going on.

 

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that plug is there for the LS/vtec conversion.
vtec motors need that hole opened up and not pluged

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itralex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that plug is there for the LS/vtec conversion.
vtec motors need that hole opened up and not pluged</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes honda put it there, they decided it would make the ls/vtec conversion easier for enthusiasts. J/K, you were asking for it that time.

by the way, i think you were confused, the plug they are referring to is on the outside of the head, it isn't on the mating surface of the head. It is probably there for the factory to drill the oil passage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjay8604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes honda put it there, they decided it would make the ls/vtec conversion easier for enthusiasts. J/K, you were asking for it that time.

by the way, i think you were confused, the plug they are referring to is on the outside of the head, it isn't on the mating surface of the head. It is probably there for the factory to drill the oil passage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha oops...i thought he was talking about the mating surface.

 

first pic fixed for ya.... forgot the period

 

do you remember putting the head gasket on with the "UP" facing up?

 

DID YOU PROPERLY TORQUE THE HEAD BOLTS??

 

I know that the head is torqued properly. It has to be the head gasket, which was brand new. So Im assuming that its on upside down.

 

What you should do, is pull the head off and make sure it is level, by using a straight edge. I built a poor mans r and I had the same problem but on the other side of the motor. If it slightly not level mill the head, and the block if u can, then go to an autoparts store and buy some copper head gasket spray, lightly coat the gasket to the copper color, it took me about three or four coats. Your leak is by an oil drain passage, so it shouldn't be too bad to fix.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gSIr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What you should do, is pull the head off and make sure it is level, by using a straight edge. I built a poor mans r and I had the same problem but on the other side of the motor. If it slightly not level mill the head, and the block if u can, then go to an autoparts store and buy some copper head gasket spray, lightly coat the gasket to the copper color, it took me about three or four coats. Your leak is by an oil drain passage, so it shouldn't be too bad to fix.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please don't do this copper head gasket crap.. please. Thats not the correct way to get it to seal. Also, I wouldn't deck the block if the head is warped. No need in increasing compression any further and once the block is decked, there is no going back. You should only deck the block if it requires it. If the head is warped and the block is not, mill only the head.

 

Thanks for the replies, but I will not be decking the block, or using copper spray. I'm sure both of these methods would "work", but I'm building a race motor, not a daily driver. If the head is warped I will be buying another... I'm sure its the gasket though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bosco500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the replies, but I will not be decking the block, or using copper spray. I'm sure both of these methods would "work", but I'm building a race motor, not a daily driver. If the head is warped I will be buying another... I'm sure its the gasket though </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to be an ***, but youre building a race motor and you might have put the headgasket on upside down?

 

Sounds like you have your headgasket on wrong. Try flipping the hg 180 degrees.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to be an ***, but youre building a race motor and you might have put the headgasket on upside down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, **** happens after lots of beer.

 

do you honestly think you might have put the gasket up side down. I could see forgetting the o-ring on the 3rd cam holder, but putting the headgasket on backwards just sounds too obvious to forget. Check by the vtec solenoid, underneath there's a tab with the head gasket part number, if you can see this, you know the gasket is on correct.

 

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Yes, **** happens after lots of beer.
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Assembling an engine after getting really drunk/buzzed.... Even better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjay8604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you honestly think you might have put the gasket up side down. I could see forgetting the o-ring on the 3rd cam holder, but putting the headgasket on backwards just sounds too obvious to forget. Check by the vtec solenoid, underneath there's a tab with the head gasket part number, if you can see this, you know the gasket is on correct. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not nearly as hard as you think to simply rush through the job and put it on upside down. I've done it. Thats how I know what it does.