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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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I was planning on an oil change for my Integra soon and was wondering if it'll be okay although unorthodox if I changed the oil with the engine cold?

I mean in theory, all the oil is gonna be at the bottom of the oil pan anyway when the engine is cold, so why not just drain it like that? when the motor has been run, warmed up and then shut down, then you'd have oil all over the motor....but I think if you change the oil with the engine cold, you can remove most of the oil from the oil pan.

If you guys can shed some light here I'd appreciate it.
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Run it while it's hot so then the oil will leak out quicker.
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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There are more particles in suspension in the oil when it is hot - just like hot tea will hold more sugar than iced tea.

I always drain my oil when it is warm/hot.
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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I just drain it cold and go do lunch while its drainging for a few hours.
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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Humm, I guess I'll just do it warm
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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when its hot? and burn the hell outta your hands....i think not
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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when its hot? and burn the hell outta your hands....i think not
i dont think he means a very hot engine, just warm enough not to burn you
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 05:41 AM
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Cold is fine. Al the dirty oil is in the pan this way. Whether it's hot or cold, shmegma on the bottom of the pan is going to stay on they bottom of the pan. If you let your oil get that dirty, first, you sould be ashamed of yourself, and second, you should start changing every 2500 miles or so. Oil is cheap.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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when its hot? and burn the hell outta your hands....i think not
I actually do mine when it's hot as possible. That way it drains faster and cleaner.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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Cold is fine. Al the dirty oil is in the pan this way. Whether it's hot or cold, shmegma on the bottom of the pan is going to stay on they bottom of the pan.

I would say that the shmegma is already drained out of the motor and suspended in the oil. (i am scared that I know what shemegma is)

I pour about ~1/2 of a qt. into the fill hole after a warm drain... kinda scary to see the color of the oil when it comes out.

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-who has done one "cold" change
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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ask D about lancing an oil filter with a big screwdriver when the oil was hot and he was under it.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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when the oil was hot and he was under it.
Thats why you change the filter from the top
Reach behind the intake manifold...easy enough
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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when it's stuck and you have to ram a screwdriver through it and then torque it, it's hard to do from the top
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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Its not hard if you have an oil filter wrench and a ratchet
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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we did, the oil filter ratched stripped the nubs on the side of the filter. trust me, it was ON there.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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Haha...thats why I hand tighten my oil filters

Use a dishwashing rubber glove, it works great
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yeah, for some reason D had cranked that bastard on there pretty good...teach him to overtighten oil filters. I usually go by the Helm 7/8ths of a turn.
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Craftsman strap wrench for 19.99 works every time.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:52 AM
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Are there any facts behind changing the oil on a cold motor vs. hot/warm motor?
--Besides the oil drains quicker when warm?

I need to change my oil (Mobil1 5w-30) today (close to 2,500miles) and would much rather let it drain for a couple hours being cold then deal with hot oil.

Also, I'm going to post a pic of my filter wrench I got from Pep Boys. It's the shiznit!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 05:05 AM
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I just changed mine yesterday. I drove the 15 minutes how from work easy. I let the car sit for 5 or 10 minutes and then went to work on it.

The oil wasn't that hot, and if you are careful you will not get burned. If you are really worried about it, keep a rag or paper towel close by and wipe your fingers off asap. Oh, and when a little warm oil hits your finger tips, make sure you don't drop the drain bolt in the pan That is not a fun fishing trip.

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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by garageSPECial &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when its hot? and burn the hell outta your hands....i think not &lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emhammer.gif" BORDER="0"&gt; </TD></TR></TABLE>

no it wont. maybe if youre an idiot and cant move your hand fast enough. and if thats the case, i hope the ****** car falls on you.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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I rub the warm oil all over my body.... oooooooh it feels sooooo goood!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesismachine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no it wont. maybe if youre an idiot and cant move your hand fast enough. and if thats the case, i hope the ****** car falls on you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're not that bright are you?? The oil pan will be hot, the head will be hot, the intake manifold will be hot, the exhaust will be hot. It's not just the oil.

Wishing a car would fall on someone
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aleph &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when it's stuck and you have to ram a screwdriver through it and then torque it, it's hard to do from the top </TD></TR></TABLE>
If the person who installed the filter last did not put oil on the o-ring, the filter can be tighter than a ****. We have every oil filter wrench imaginable at the shop, but if someone cranked the filter on without lubing it, we are reduced to the screwdriver trick-it happens once in a blue moon. BTW change the oil when it's warm
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the person who installed the filter last did not put oil on the o-ring, the filter can be tighter than a ****. We have every oil filter wrench imaginable at the shop, but if someone cranked the filter on without lubing it, we are reduced to the screwdriver trick-it happens once in a blue moon. BTW change the oil when it's warm </TD></TR></TABLE>

I had to use the screwdriver trick once as well, but not on the R, thankfully.
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