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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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So gradually all the goodies we've ordered are coming in for the Civic EX version2.
Our 4.9 final drive arrived yesterday (yea finally we have a 4.9!!!! ), in the paperwork that came with it was this...

Thank you for choosing SRR Products.
WARNING: These parts are manufactured for Circuit Racing purposes only and carry no warranty.
The Final Drive Gears can fail if subjected to:
Excessive shock load from power shifting, high speed starts, engine braking, vehicle becoming air borne or running over corner marker curbs, or lifting of drive wheels while cornering.
Good luck racing...

We laughed and laughed...are they for real?!
I don't think there is a single thing on that list that we DON'T do while racing! (Then again we aren't known for being "conservative" with our equipment.)
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Here is Isaac's (Head & Neck) agreement...

THIS IS A WAIVER OF RIGHTS

You have at least one warm brain cell and therefore know that any kind of racing is dangerous. After all, the idea is to go as fast as possible and then stop. How you stop is something we have no control over.

Safety products are like birth control. Whatever you do, do something, because anything is better than nothing. An Isaac® product is better than nothing, but if you hit something hard enough fast enough, you are going to get hurt. You might die. In fact, if you hit something really hard really fast, you will die and there is nothing we can do about it. You are responsible for your safety, not us. If you don't like it, don't race.

Once we ship the product, it is out of our control. You have to take care of it. If it doesn't look right, or feel right, or act right, don't use it. Send it back to us. If you crash, don't use it again. Send it back to us. Help us make it a better product.

Read the instructions. Use the product according to the instructions. Don't modify it. And don't drill holes in the helmet while you are wearing the helmet. If someone else wants to use the product, it's your job to make sure they use it correctly, not ours.

If you can check the box below you have at least one warm brain cell, so here's the deal: We will sell you an Isaac® product if you promise not to sue us. That's it, pure and simple. Keep in mind that "you" means you, your family, friends, heirs, estate, successors, assigns and anyone else who comes along, including someone you may be buying it for. "Us" means just that: the company, its employees, managers, officers, directors, affiliates, partners/shareholders/members, agents, representatives, etc. In other words, you guys won't sue us guys. We could drag this part out for pages, but you are racers, not namby-pamby whiners who sit up late at night watching TV commercials that have some lawyer telling you to call 1-800-SUETHEM.

That's about it. If you check the 'I Agree' below you guys agree not to sue us guys, you guys agree to use the product like you're supposed to, and you guys understand and agree that the product has no warranties, expressed or implied. If you don't check the 'I Agree' box below, we guys aren't going to sell it to you guys. Sorry, but that's the way it has to be.


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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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haha, that's what it really says? I especially like this one

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And don't drill holes in the helmet while you are wearing the helmet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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I think that waiver is pure poetry. Simple, to the point, a little humorous, and if somone tried to ignore the waiver and sue, a jury (if it got that far) would understand it.

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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That's the way waivers and/or warranties should be written.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Liability for companies isn't a joke.

"One in three business-persons' will be sued in their lifetime". Not if, but when.

It sucks, but that is the USA in our time. Lawyers should all die.


John- who spent a ton on money on his LLC.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Liability for companies isn't a joke.

"One in three business-persons' will be sued in their lifetime". Not if, but when.

It sucks, but that is the USA in our time. Lawyers should all die.


John- who spent a ton on money on his LLC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right up there with the IRS.

"A federal report announced ealier today that the IRS audits 100% of all argiculture, textile and manufacture business, while it only audits 50% of the financial service industry business; the report is being disputed by the IRS who's responsible for it's publication."

No joke!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Liability for companies isn't a joke.

"One in three business-persons' will be sued in their lifetime". Not if, but when.

It sucks, but that is the USA in our time. Lawyers should all die.


John- who spent a ton on money on his LLC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course, if there were no lawyers, there wouldn't be much advancement in safety equipment if the equipment manufacturers could sell faulty stuff and get away with it...
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean O’Gorman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Of course, if there were no lawyers, there wouldn't be much advancement in safety equipment if the equipment manufacturers could sell faulty stuff and get away with it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll give you that, but because of lawyers and people who refuse to claim responsibility for their own actions, manufacturers have to write statements such as this; ...and don't drill holes in the helmet while you are wearing the helmet

{Whining idiot consumer with a hole in his head}: "..but the directions should've told me not to."
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is Isaac's (Head & Neck) agreement...

THIS IS A WAIVER OF RIGHTS

You have at least one warm brain cell and therefore know that any kind of racing is dangerous. After all, the idea is to go as fast as possible and then stop. How you stop is something we have no control over.

Safety products are like birth control. Whatever you do, do something, because anything is better than nothing. An Isaac® product is better than nothing, but if you hit something hard enough fast enough, you are going to get hurt. You might die. In fact, if you hit something really hard really fast, you will die and there is nothing we can do about it. You are responsible for your safety, not us. If you don't like it, don't race.

Once we ship the product, it is out of our control. You have to take care of it. If it doesn't look right, or feel right, or act right, don't use it. Send it back to us. If you crash, don't use it again. Send it back to us. Help us make it a better product.

Read the instructions. Use the product according to the instructions. Don't modify it. And don't drill holes in the helmet while you are wearing the helmet. If someone else wants to use the product, it's your job to make sure they use it correctly, not ours.

If you can check the box below you have at least one warm brain cell, so here's the deal: We will sell you an Isaac® product if you promise not to sue us. That's it, pure and simple. Keep in mind that "you" means you, your family, friends, heirs, estate, successors, assigns and anyone else who comes along, including someone you may be buying it for. "Us" means just that: the company, its employees, managers, officers, directors, affiliates, partners/shareholders/members, agents, representatives, etc. In other words, you guys won't sue us guys. We could drag this part out for pages, but you are racers, not namby-pamby whiners who sit up late at night watching TV commercials that have some lawyer telling you to call 1-800-SUETHEM.

That's about it. If you check the 'I Agree' below you guys agree not to sue us guys, you guys agree to use the product like you're supposed to, and you guys understand and agree that the product has no warranties, expressed or implied. If you don't check the 'I Agree' box below, we guys aren't going to sell it to you guys. Sorry, but that's the way it has to be.


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Man, that is the best no lawer release i have ever seen.........
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Default Re: funniest disclaimer... (JohnW)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Liability for companies isn't a joke.

"One in three business-persons' will be sued in their lifetime". Not if, but when.

It sucks, but that is the USA in our time. Lawyers should all die.


John- who spent a ton on money on his LLC.</TD></TR></TABLE>


This is the kind of thing that has made me think that the safest commerce in the aftermarket is in the pure bling. "Manufacture and sell control arms or uprights? You'd have to be out of your mind."

Scott, who will hold himself responsible if a part he made fails and kills me...
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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That was the best 5 minutes I've spent all night.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is Isaac's (Head & Neck) agreement...

THIS IS A WAIVER OF RIGHTS

You have at least one warm brain cell and therefore know that any kind of racing is dangerous. After all, the idea is to go as fast as possible and then stop. How you stop is something we have no control over.

Safety products are like birth control. Whatever you do, do something, because anything is better than nothing. An Isaac® product is better than nothing, but if you hit something hard enough fast enough, you are going to get hurt. You might die. In fact, if you hit something really hard really fast, you will die and there is nothing we can do about it. You are responsible for your safety, not us. If you don't like it, don't race.

Once we ship the product, it is out of our control. You have to take care of it. If it doesn't look right, or feel right, or act right, don't use it. Send it back to us. If you crash, don't use it again. Send it back to us. Help us make it a better product.

Read the instructions. Use the product according to the instructions. Don't modify it. And don't drill holes in the helmet while you are wearing the helmet. If someone else wants to use the product, it's your job to make sure they use it correctly, not ours.

If you can check the box below you have at least one warm brain cell, so here's the deal: We will sell you an Isaac® product if you promise not to sue us. That's it, pure and simple. Keep in mind that "you" means you, your family, friends, heirs, estate, successor

s, assigns and anyone else who comes along, including someone you may be buying it for. "Us" means just that: the company, its employees, managers, officers, directors, affiliates, partners/shareholders/members, agents, representatives, etc. In other words, you guys won't sue us guys. We could drag this part out for pages, but you are racers, not namby-pamby whiners who sit up late at night watching TV commercials that have some lawyer telling you to call 1-800-SUETHEM.

That's about it. If you check the 'I Agree' below you guys agree not to sue us guys, you guys agree to use the product like you're supposed to, and you guys understand and agree that the product has no warranties, expressed or implied. If you don't check the 'I Agree' box below, we guys aren't going to sell it to you guys. Sorry, but that's the way it has to be.


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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Lawyers should all die</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know, I don't mind lawyer jokes and even spread them myself, but saying lawyers should all die is pretty screwed up. I am a lawyer. In fact I am the one who defends the businesses that get sued. I am involved in motorsports litigation and have defended some people in motorsports you have seen on TV I am sure. I also defend mom and pop race track owners who are at the grassroots level. I guess the lawyer who set up your LLC should die too?

There is a function in society for the law and yes lawyers too. Before you go shooting the lawyers, you might want to look at how people have been raised instead. I know there are some real jackass lawyers but we are not all bad. You have to have a whiny, it is not my fault, I am a victim plaintiff first. Although there are people out there with meritorious claims there is a lot of bullshit claims too. Too many people have been raised to think they are not responsible for their own actions and it is always someone else's fault. That is the bigger problem. People are not being raised right by society/parents.

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Default Re: funniest disclaimer... (Lyonel 13H4)

kinda sorta back on topic...

i'm sure you guys remember the pics of messed up srr final drives. have any of you guys considered heat treating or shotpeening them before putting them in your trans? would that make a difference in the durability? and how much would that cost?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apexinghonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Too many people have been raised to think they are not responsible for their own actions and it is always someone else's fault. That is the bigger problem. People are not being raised right by society/parents. Barry H. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Even as much as I love me some lawyer bashin', you can't argue with that. It pretty much hits the nail on the head.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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The instructions are funny too.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Track rat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even as much as I love me some lawyer bashin', you can't argue with that. It pretty much hits the nail on the head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apexinghonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Too many people have been raised to think they are not responsible for their own actions and it is always someone else's fault. That is the bigger problem. People are not being raised right by society/parents.

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EXACTLY! Hell there was a thread that got to be damn near 7 pages long in the eg+ forum a couple weeks ago. Some nitwit wanted to sue the pants off a the guy that sold him his car used because the engine blew. When asked what caused the engine to blow he said and I Quote "ma boi said there was little to no oil in it." He also told us that he had been driving the car for almost 3 months. He actually thought he would have a chance at winning the case. It's unbelievable.

To get back on topic, on some timing belt warning labels it says "Do NOT try and install while the engine is running."

And on hair dryers it says "Do not use while sleeping."
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

To get back on topic, on some timing belt warning labels it says "Do NOT try and install while the engine is running."
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'eh the engine likely wouldn't run for much longer once you loosened the tensioner anyway, but ti would sure make a mess when you pulled the valve cover off if it had not stopped yet. (assuming this is a honda motor)
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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A piece on NPR featured "dumbest product warnings." The winner was a package of fishhooks that said, "Do not eat."

On the Isaac disclaimer, I can assure you that the lawyers signed off on it.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:59 AM
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I can't wait for a report on how the SRR piece holds up! I wanted to get one, but with all the negative things I've read about them (on-line), I decided to wait. Now that you have one, hopefully you'll give it a workout and report back!
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downingracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't wait for a report on how the SRR piece holds up! I wanted to get one, but with all the negative things I've read about them (on-line), I decided to wait. Now that you have one, hopefully you'll give it a workout and report back! </TD></TR></TABLE>

we've had one before...yes the tranny blew up....yes it could have been the fd... but it did go almost a calender year with Lyonel racing on it, & Danielle being evil to the tranny in hpdes before that happened.

Our plan this time is to check our tranny/final drive more often + always have a spare at the track.

However if someone wants to point us in a direction to "heat treat" etc the fd for strength...we'd be more than happy to look into it...just don't know where to go.

But we can't afford Houseman right now (the only other option). The fd would cost more than we paid for the the car.
My (Danielle) plan was to let Lyon run the 4.9 to see if it makes him happy, or if the 4.7 was better, or??
From there if we have to go the mucho priced Houseman route in order to have a fd that lasts, at least we know we're picking the right ratio...if that day comes we will let everyone know as a small/limited run is less $ than just 1 for us.

edit- if anyone out there that runs a d16z6 honda is (seriously) interested in going the Houseman route, please email us, if we could get enough people together for a small run it would bring down the cost to "normal final drive cost" I would like to start a list of folks to contact if/when we go that route. I have already contacted Houseman so I know that the "small run" would make it "affordable."
We'd all have to order the same (4.9 or 4.7) which is why we wanted to try out a 4.9 before making a decision of which one. We are guessing that it'll be the 4.9 (what Houseman recommended we use anyway.)

OK back to funny disclaimers.....

Modified by Lyonel 13H4 at 2:34 PM 4/14/2005


Modified by Lyonel 13H4 at 2:39 PM 4/18/2005
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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Here's the best one I've ever seen -- its from a private rock climbing park in WV called Nelson Rocks:

WARNING!! ALL GUESTS OF NELSON ROCKS PRESERVE MUST READ THIS!

Nature is unpredictable and unsafe. Mountains are dangerous. Many books have been written about these dangers, and there's no way we can list them all here. Read the books. Nelson Rocks Preserve is covered in steep terrain with loose, slippery and unstable footing. The weather can make matters worse. Sheer drops are everywhere. You may fall, be injured or die. There are hidden holes. You could break your leg. There are wild animals, which may be vicious, poisonous or carriers of dread diseases. These include poisonous snakes and insects. Plants can be poisonous as well. We don't do anything to protect you from any of this. We do not inspect, supervise or maintain the grounds, rocks, cliffs or other features, natural or otherwise. Real dangers are present even on trails. Trails are not sidewalks. They can be, and are, steep, slippery and dangerous. Trail features made or enhanced by humans, such as steps, walls and railings (if any) can break, collapse, or otherwise fail catastrophically at any time. We don't promise to inspect, supervise or maintain them in any way. They may be negligently constructed or repaired. They are unsafe, period. Live with it or stay away. Stay on the trails whenever possible. The terrain, in addition to being dangerous, is surprisingly complex. You may get lost. Carry food, water and first aid supplies at all times. Rocks and other objects can fall from the cliffs. They can tumble down slopes. This can happen naturally, or be caused by people above you, such as climbers. Rocks of all sizes, including huge boulders, can shift, move or fall with no warning. Use of helmets is advised for anyone approaching the rock formations. They can be purchased or rented at Seneca Rocks. They won't save you if you get hit by something big or on another part of your body. A whole rock formation might collapse on you and squash you like a bug. Don't think it can't happen. Weather can be dangerous, regardless of the forecast. Be prepared with extra clothing, including rain gear. Hypothermia, heat stroke, lightning, ice and snow, etc. can kill you. Rain can turn easy terrain into a deathtrap. If you scramble in high places (scrambling is moving over terrain steep enough to use your hands) without proper experience, training and equipment, or allow children to do so, you are making a terrible mistake. Even if you know what you're doing, lots of things can go wrong and you may be injured or die. It happens all the time. The Preserve does not provide rangers or security personnel. The other people in the preserve, including other visitors, our employees, agents, and guests, and anyone else who might sneak in, may be stupid, reckless, or otherwise dangerous. They may be mentally ill, criminally insane, drunk, using illegal drugs and/or armed with deadly weapons and ready to use them. We aren't necessarily going to do anything about it. We refuse to take responsibility. If you climb, you may die or be seriously injured. This is true whether you are experienced or not, trained or not, equipped or not, though training and equipment may help. It's a fact, climbing is extremely dangerous. If you don't like it, stay at home. You really shouldn't be doing it anyway. We do not provide supervision or instruction. We are not responsible for, and do not inspect or maintain, climbing anchors (including bolts, pitons, slings, trees, etc.) As far as we know, any of them can and will fail and send you plunging to your death. There are countless tons of loose rock ready to be dislodged and fall on you or someone else. There are any number of extremely and unusually dangerous conditions existing on and around the rocks, and elsewhere on the property. We may or may not know about any specific hazard, but even if we do, don't expect us to try to warn you. You're on your own. Rescue services are not provided by the Preserve, and may not be available quickly or at all. Local rescue squads may not be equipped for or trained in mountain rescue. If you are lucky enough to have somebody try to rescue you or treat your injuries, they may be incompetent or worse. This includes doctors and hospitals. We assume no responsibility. Also, if you decide to participate in a rescue of some other unfortunate, that's your choice. Don't do it unless you are willing to assume all risks. By entering the Preserve, you are agreeing that we owe you no duty of care or any other duty. We promise you nothing. We do not and will not even try to keep the premises safe for any purpose. The premises are not safe for any purpose. This is no joke. We won't even try to warn you about any dangerous or hazardous condition, whether we know about it or not. If we do decide to warn you about something, that doesn't mean we will try to warn you about anything else. If we do make an effort to fix an unsafe condition, we may not try to correct any others, and we may make matters worse! We and our employees or agents may do things that are unwise and dangerous. Sorry, we're not responsible. We may give you bad advice. Don't listen to us. In short, ENTER AND USE THE PRESERVE AT YOUR OWN RISK. And have fun! NRP Management

©2002 Nelson Rocks Preserve
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JoelG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's the best one I've ever seen -- its from a private rock climbing park in WV called Nelson Rocks:
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That is a good one.
Actually we were rock climbers for many years before we were racers. Have to say/agree that in general the climbing community has some of the funniest disclaimers...
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Default Re: funniest disclaimer... (Lyonel 13H4)

some fav disclaimers:

on superhero costume cape: 'cape does not enable wearer to fly'

chainsaw: 'do not use on/near genitals'

peanuts: 'contains peanuts'

kitchen knife: 'do not leave in children'

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