http://www.importbuilders.com/turbosetup.html


I dont agree with him on going with a low liter engine for less torque thus making less wheelspin..... read up and tell me your thoughts.

 

i read that awhile back it is for street use more geared for street racing and being able to get traction on the street.

 

for street use, that would make totally perfect sense.

 

thats why the b16 hatches all seem to run mid high 11s with simple setups

 

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Yeah, just like how the all motor cars are always faster, right?

Anyone running 11's with a B16 on slicks would run faster with a GSR swap, period!

 

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Yeah, just like how the all motor cars are always faster, right?

Anyone running 11's with a B16 on slicks would run faster with a GSR swap, period!</TD></TR></TABLE>

you seem confused.

take 2 cars with equal horsepower and n/a will most likely be quicker due to lack of turbo lag and the ability to produce peak tq sooner. also referred to as "power under the curve" the car with more of it, is more efficient and likely quicker. other variables are to be taken into consideration of course. traction, gearing, driver, weight, etc.

and as far as the original topic, its based on a STREET setup and you are talking about slicks. the car with ability to put more useable power to the ground will beat one that just makes power and cant get traction.

 

i agree, this is intended only for people who wish to run on the street.

 

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you seem confused.

take 2 cars with equal horsepower and n/a will most likely be quicker due to lack of turbo lag and the ability to produce peak tq sooner. also referred to as "power under the curve" the car with more of it, is more efficient and likely quicker. other variables are to be taken into consideration of course. traction, gearing, driver, weight, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who gives a **** about making peak torque sooner when the turbo car makes MORE peak torque and will without a doubt have more area under the curve. Heard of a 2-step lately either? At the track I NEVER launch without boost.

 

people don't get the fact that it is for a street turbo car. what's the use in having hella torque if you can never put it to the ground that's all the article is doing giving people that run on the street a build that will work best.

 

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Who gives a **** about making peak torque sooner when the turbo car makes MORE peak torque and will without a doubt have more area under the curve. Heard of a 2-step lately either? At the track I NEVER launch without boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

will you ever get it through you thick skull that everyone here including the article is talking about street cars? you 2 step off the traffic lights?

 

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will you ever get it through you thick skull that everyone here including the article is talking about street cars? you 2 step off the traffic lights?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I rolled around on slicks everywhere, sure. I've still never been holeshotted by an all motor car or (lol) a b16 turbo car on the street. Every all motor car I've seen/driven is as ballless as mine is before boost, except for me it eventually gets better.

I drive my car EVERY DAY and I would never, ever trade my GSR motor for a B16, period. Have wheelspin? Hold back on the throttle. Can't do that? Get stickier tires. I have a friend running a B16, even though he needs 104 octane to make the power my bigger motor makes on pump gas he still can't beat me, because I have more mid range power and a better overall powerband. When the azenis spin at low speeds, guess what I do? That's right, I back off the throttle a bit, and lay back into it when it catches up. Not hard folks.

 

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If I rolled around on slicks everywhere, sure. I've still never been holeshotted by an all motor car or (lol) a b16 turbo car on the street. Every all motor car I've seen/driven is as ballless as mine is before boost, except for me it eventually gets better.

I drive my car EVERY DAY and I would never, ever trade my GSR motor for a B16, period. Have wheelspin? Hold back on the throttle. Can't do that? Get stickier tires. I have a friend running a B16, even though he needs 104 octane to make the power my bigger motor makes on pump gas he still can't beat me, because I have more mid range power and a better overall powerband. When the azenis spin at low speeds, guess what I do? That's right, I back off the throttle a bit, and lay back into it when it catches up. Not hard folks.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok you win, you are the badest dude ever.

 

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ok you win, you are the badest dude ever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought so!

 

a built b16 is still going to have traction issues, just because it has less torque doesnt mean it wont have traction issues. Sure stock for stock a b16 might get better traction, but the b18 will come back in the mid and high end and rape the b16.

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT GG.

 

on the street the less torque the more easier it will be to get traction most likely the first person to get traction is going to when on the street if power is similar in both cars.

 

 

i knew all the sohc people would be pouring in here agreeing with the article

 

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Like I said, I've never lost to a B16 turbo car. I went golfing today with the same guy with the B16 turbo car, on pump gas he's made 375 WHP and me at 400 WHP in a 300 pound heavier car I still pull on him. We're even through first and halfway through second, then the more broad powercurve of the 1.8 lets me just pull away.

 

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Like I said, I've never lost to a B16 turbo car. I went golfing today with the same guy with the B16 turbo car, on pump gas he's made 375 WHP and me at 400 WHP in a 300 pound heavier car I still pull on him. We're even through first and halfway through second, then the more broad powercurve of the 1.8 lets me just pull away.</TD></TR></TABLE>


where u located?

 

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behind the keyboard and 400 miles away from the closest drag strip

 

He must not know how to drive the car properly. His car is 300 pounds lighter than yours. I'm not saying you did not beat him though. Good job...

 

i rather get a gsr better powerband

 

There is no replacment for cubic inches.Get the biggest motor as you can. And run less boost if you have to.A big motor has better throttle control.And throttle control is what makes your car hook up.Also a big motor can come on alot lower RPM than a small one.And you won't have to run big boost to make the same HP ,so it will last longer

 

how come people always say go h22 in a civic and now people are saying a gsr has too much torque go with a b16 lol.. why not go in the middle and have best of both worlds