Tire size and choice
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I have 16x7 rotas and I need to put some tires on but I need some advice.
From what I've gathered off HT so far is that going with 215x40 16 is the best choice of tire for this size rim (Tell me if I'm wrong). The speedo being off doesnt bother me at all.
Here is the choice I have for tires...
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Toyo Proxes T1-R
Yokohama A539
From what I've gathered off HT so far is that going with 215x40 16 is the best choice of tire for this size rim (Tell me if I'm wrong). The speedo being off doesnt bother me at all.
Here is the choice I have for tires...
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Toyo Proxes T1-R
Yokohama A539
u dont need bling bling tires. unless ur track *****.lol
and 205/50/16 is what most people use.
and i'd pick falken anize whatever u spell it.lol(track) ..oh its not on ur list.lol
for the street falken 512 or es100
and 205/50/16 is what most people use.
and i'd pick falken anize whatever u spell it.lol(track) ..oh its not on ur list.lol
for the street falken 512 or es100
215/45R16 is the stock JDM 98 tire size btw.
You can get the RE-040 in that size in Europe.
You can also get the Dunlop SP9000 in 215/40R16.
http://www.reifendirekt.de/Sommerreifen.html
You can get the RE-040 in that size in Europe.
You can also get the Dunlop SP9000 in 215/40R16.
http://www.reifendirekt.de/Sommerreifen.html
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From what I've gathered off HT so far is that going with 215x40 16 is the best choice of tire for this size rim (Tell me if I'm wrong).
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JDM OEM size is 215/45/16. You can't get those in Europe?
215/40/16 is fine, but it has rather small size-wall... so, if you have rough roads, then you might be bothered.
From what I've gathered off HT so far is that going with 215x40 16 is the best choice of tire for this size rim (Tell me if I'm wrong).
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JDM OEM size is 215/45/16. You can't get those in Europe?
215/40/16 is fine, but it has rather small size-wall... so, if you have rough roads, then you might be bothered.
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Im tending towards the 40 sidewall for price reasons and also the roads here are in great condition so I have no pot holes or low quality roads I have to worry about.
Ive heard mixed opinions about the RE040s... What do you think of them?
Ive heard mixed opinions about the RE040s... What do you think of them?
of those choices i would go with the toyo t1s. ive heard they perform as well as so3 but are about 5lbs lighter.
my only advice past that is to stay away from the goodyear f1, they have the softest sidewall of any tire i have seen, it is not metal its some kind of woven fabric. i can literally smoosh an uninflated sidewall with my bare hands.
result is sloppy handling, they rip, and offer no protection to the rim lip. the only reason these tires get good reviews is that bmw sedan owners buy them and then heap praise for the smooth ride.
my only advice past that is to stay away from the goodyear f1, they have the softest sidewall of any tire i have seen, it is not metal its some kind of woven fabric. i can literally smoosh an uninflated sidewall with my bare hands.
result is sloppy handling, they rip, and offer no protection to the rim lip. the only reason these tires get good reviews is that bmw sedan owners buy them and then heap praise for the smooth ride.
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The T1S have the softest sidewall Ive seen... I had them last summer and I wasnt pleased with them at all due to the sidewall. The grip in rain and dry was excellent but the sidewall made turning and freeway driving a nightmare! I might go ahead and get the T1Rs due to them being about 40% cheaper than the other tires and that the sidewalls are a bit stiffer than the T1S... Having a smaller sidewall (40x215) I think the car wont have as much steering 'lag' as I did with 50x205s last year.
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That's news to me...
That's news to me...
T1-R is the new Toyo tire, right? Maybe it's better than the T1-S.
The RE-040 is similar to the RE-010 but not directional. Many OEMs use them (CTR).
The RE-040 is similar to the RE-010 but not directional. Many OEMs use them (CTR).
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Yes the T1R is the newer "better" tire. I have a couple friends here with them but im still a bit hesitant. Id really like to choose the correct tire for this season.
Does anyone have pictures of what a 215x40/45 tire would look like on a 16x7 rim?
Does anyone have pictures of what a 215x40/45 tire would look like on a 16x7 rim?
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215/40/16 is fine, but it has rather small size-wall... so, if you have rough roads, then you might be bothered. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Look familiar Sean!
Still rolling on these since i hardly drive.
215-40-16's
215/40/16 is fine, but it has rather small size-wall... so, if you have rough roads, then you might be bothered. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Look familiar Sean!
Still rolling on these since i hardly drive.
215-40-16's
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that explains the weight difference.
that explains the weight difference.
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You can get the S-02 in Europe in this size!
You can get the S-02 in Europe in this size!
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Yeah, I run these on the street.
205/50R16 will rub like a bitch if you lower it at all. Too tall.
-Chris
Yeah, I run these on the street.
205/50R16 will rub like a bitch if you lower it at all. Too tall.
-Chris
225/40-16 will fit on a 50mm offset rim
I just bought a set of Toyo T1-Rs in that size and got them installed on Friday.
I am taking them to the track tomorrow for some testing (it's supposed to rain so I am going to use my street tires instead of my R compounds).
So far these are the things I notice about the T1Rs
1. Very quiet
2. Compliant ride
3. Small amount of tread squirm on cornering (big tread blocks I suppose)
4. Excellent traction
I'll post some more after I get back from the track.
Here are some teaser pics I took in the meantime:



Modified by Big Phat R at 10:42 PM 4/10/2005
I just bought a set of Toyo T1-Rs in that size and got them installed on Friday.
I am taking them to the track tomorrow for some testing (it's supposed to rain so I am going to use my street tires instead of my R compounds).
So far these are the things I notice about the T1Rs
1. Very quiet
2. Compliant ride
3. Small amount of tread squirm on cornering (big tread blocks I suppose)
4. Excellent traction
I'll post some more after I get back from the track.
Here are some teaser pics I took in the meantime:



Modified by Big Phat R at 10:42 PM 4/10/2005
205/45/16 is a good size, however watch out for the load ratings. Most tyres in this size are not the correct load rating for our cars (requiring 84W) - 215/40/16 & 215/45/16 (JDM) are the correct load rating
205/50/16 - rubs like a bitch on heat, with a lowered car and +43 offset (personal experience)
RE040 - have been a good tyre :D I find them compariable to the RE010 (OEM here in Australia)
Good wear and they hold up on the track pretty well.
T1s - soft side wall when you move to a 40 series tyre - but T1R's are definately an improvement and have a much stiffer sidewall.
Falken Azenis RT215 are good in the dry
But if it rains alot, I'd go for the T1R's
205/50/16 - rubs like a bitch on heat, with a lowered car and +43 offset (personal experience)
RE040 - have been a good tyre :D I find them compariable to the RE010 (OEM here in Australia)
Good wear and they hold up on the track pretty well.
T1s - soft side wall when you move to a 40 series tyre - but T1R's are definately an improvement and have a much stiffer sidewall.
Falken Azenis RT215 are good in the dry
But if it rains alot, I'd go for the T1R's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">225/40-16 will fit on a 50mm offset rim
I just bought a set of Toyo T1-Rs in that size and got them installed on Friday.
I am taking them to the track tomorrow for some testing (it's supposed to rain so I am going to use my street tires instead of my R compounds).
So far these are the things I notice about the T1Rs
1. Very quiet
2. Compliant ride
3. Small amount of tread squirm on cornering (big tread blocks I suppose)
4. Excellent traction
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What size rim are you on?
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T1s - soft side wall when you move to a 40 series tyre - but T1R's are definately an improvement and have a much stiffer sidewall.
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how low were you when you rubbed?
Why when having a 40 series sidewall would this cause more problems than having a 45 series tire?
The rims I have have a +40 offset and ill have an inch of wheel gap pretty much but i can lower raise the car as i like for it not to rub.
I just bought a set of Toyo T1-Rs in that size and got them installed on Friday.
I am taking them to the track tomorrow for some testing (it's supposed to rain so I am going to use my street tires instead of my R compounds).
So far these are the things I notice about the T1Rs
1. Very quiet
2. Compliant ride
3. Small amount of tread squirm on cornering (big tread blocks I suppose)
4. Excellent traction
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What size rim are you on?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50/16 - rubs like a bitch on heat, with a lowered car and +43 offset (personal experience)
T1s - soft side wall when you move to a 40 series tyre - but T1R's are definately an improvement and have a much stiffer sidewall.
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how low were you when you rubbed?
Why when having a 40 series sidewall would this cause more problems than having a 45 series tire?
The rims I have have a +40 offset and ill have an inch of wheel gap pretty much but i can lower raise the car as i like for it not to rub.
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My snow tires were 205/50R16, +40 wheels, and my jack points are ~4.75 inches (12 cm) off of the ground, 12k springs. The fronts rubbed the top of the wheel well when pulling into my driveway (steep), the rears rubbed until I rolled the fender. No apparent rubbing at speed unless I hit a serious bump. Also 205/45 R15 tires were better, but I still decided to hammer the seam at the top of the front wheel well to get more clearance.
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My snow tires were 205/50R16, +40 wheels, and my jack points are ~4.75 inches (12 cm) off of the ground, 12k springs. The fronts rubbed the top of the wheel well when pulling into my driveway (steep), the rears rubbed until I rolled the fender. No apparent rubbing at speed unless I hit a serious bump. Also 205/45 R15 tires were better, but I still decided to hammer the seam at the top of the front wheel well to get more clearance.
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Looks like an R compound tire. Not really street tire.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Looks like an R compound tire. Not really street tire.


