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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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hey i have a 94 prelude that i did a h22 jdm swap on. i was just wondering if anyone ever ran in to this, since the motor is jdm will i need to run a 5 wire distributor? and have an external coil pack? i heard that thats how the jdm cars are setup.... i have no spark at all and i am trying to figure out why.. thanks for the help!
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Which wire harmess are you using? You can use the original dizzy and put the H22 spark plugwires on it if your using the original harmess.

Also do you have any check engine lights?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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i am running a h23 harness since the jdm has cut up really bad. i am having a really bad time getting a spark.... but its not throwing a cel.... any help would be greatly appreicated!!! and by the way do you know where i could order a 5 wire distributor cap from and an external coil?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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bump...i need help
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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please help asap!
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com for your parts

I ordered a distributor cap for a 4th gen VTEC when i did my swap and also everything else that i bought for the motor i ordered for a 4th gen VTEC.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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did you need to go to the 5th wire with the external coil?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxer518 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you need to go to the 5th wire with the external coil? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i used the external coil from my H23 and ordered the 5 wire set from the above link i posted.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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so do you think thats why im not getting saprk? this is driving me crazzzzzy...and i dont see where they sell a 5th wire cap on that site?

thanks for the info
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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You said you were using the h23 harness,
why don't you just use your distributor off
of your h23 motor?


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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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I just looked at my old order and I ended up ordering a distributor cap for a 5th gen because it has the 5th wire for the coil on it. And why do you need to order a new coil? Dont you have the one from your H23?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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thats the probalm... i dont have the h23 anymore.... so i guess i will have to get the cap with the 5th wire and an external coil.... do you think it is worth getting a msd one, since i cant find one beside msd...

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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I found this thread deep in the archives.

Maybe it will help a little bit.
If not, you can learn something from it

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=348700

I thought this thread had been covered before with exact wiring
instructions on how to do it.

I'll search a little more for ya later.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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yo thanks man! now from looking at the insides of the two dizzys i can now say that mine has an internal coil..... but since i am using a h23 harness dose this still mean that i need to run an external dizzy?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxer518 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yo thanks man! now from looking at the insides of the two dizzys i can now say that mine has an internal coil..... but since i am using a h23 harness dose this still mean that i need to run an external dizzy?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You still gonna have to rewire the harness to accept the internal coil.

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Here's another thread that can hopefully help you.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=712530

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's another thread that can hopefully help you.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=712530

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wow triple post all at the same time!!! How'd you do that?!?!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sabbotage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wow triple post all at the same time!!! How'd you do that?!?! </TD></TR></TABLE>

bwahahahahhaha

The thread's that awesome

I serve

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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so wont need to rewire it if i run the external coil right?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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today i got a msd coil and, 5th wire dizzy cap and coil to dizzy wire. is this all i will need to get the external coil working? also on my h23 harness there is a square 1"-1" plug that has like 3 or 4 wires that go into it,( its a male plug) it is located right by the top of the tranny, dose anybody know what the plug is???? please help!

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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I would bet its the plug for the stock coil....
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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would the stock coil have a port for a plug? is there any way to wire the new coil in with out using that plug?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxer518 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would the stock coil have a port for a plug? is there any way to wire the new coil in with out using that plug?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes the stock coil has a connector for a plug. Thats how it gets power

Heres instructions for wiring a MSD coil for a 4th or 5th gen prelude. Maybe they will help you out.

http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fift...shtml
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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this is what i am doing: taking my jdm dizzy and taking the internal coil out and running a 5th wire cap with a msd SS external coil. and where i am now is where do i hook the wires that the stock external coil plugs into on the msd coil pack? and the wires that go from the stock internal coil to the igniter chip where do i plug thoughs wires into?
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxer518 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and where i am now is where do i hook the wires that the stock external coil plugs into on the msd coil pack? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I answered this in the other thread.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When I had a msd blaster coil, I used terminals to stick into the connectors
and ran extra wire to the coil and soldered the connection there.
This way you don't have to splice the connector.

The black with yellow stripe and solid yellow wires both go to the positive.
The blue wire goes to the negative on the coil.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxer518 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and the wires that go from the stock internal coil to the igniter chip where do i plug thoughs wires into? </TD></TR></TABLE>


Did you pm sharkcohen?

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