525 whp only trapping 135 why?????

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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25x8.7x13 inch slick....

and about 520-530 hp what should i be trapping in a 2560 lb car w/ driver????
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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That seems about right to me considering i have seen some 2300lb hatches with that power trapping 137-138
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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damn you wanna trap like 150? thats perfect for the power and weight of the car. I've seen cars with more power and those trap times.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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trap sounds good for the whp , you can run 10.8's with that trap if every thing setup right and its not a b16
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Sounds about right.

Why is everyone wondering about their traps all of a sudden?

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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sounds right...I ran 141 with 523 whp spinning all 1st gear in a 2300 pd car
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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People need to remember that corrected HP doesn't neccisarily mean the exact amount of HP your putting down...Hence the term... "corrected."

What you should really be looking at in terms of trap speeds is your Uncorrected HP.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People need to remember that corrected HP doesn't neccisarily mean the exact amount of HP your putting down...Hence the term... "corrected."

What you should really be looking at in terms of trap speeds is your Uncorrected HP. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Miami is a couple feet above sealevel, so I'd venture his corrected numbers were within +/- 15 WHP to what he was actually making. Assuming, of course, that his motor wasn't heatsoaked.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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*cough* traction *cough*
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Miami is a couple feet above sealevel, so I'd venture his corrected numbers were within +/- 15 WHP to what he was actually making. Assuming, of course, that his motor wasn't heatsoaked.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol...I didn't even look where he was from. yeah it would be close then.

There are just so many factors that come into play...

Temps, altitude, traction, driving skill, boost variances...ect

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 525 whp only trapping 135 why????? (miamidamian)

car weighs 2560 with you in it? how light are you? or what the **** did you do to the teg to get it that light? (2400lbs)

BTW, those numbers look pretty good....if your not trapping what you want, turn the boost up poosy!
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Guys just ignore him...he's being stupid

what he needs to do is start getting some safety stuff put into the car. He has ***** running that car this past weekend with no roll cage, straps, harness, scattershield, NOTHING.

your car is building the power and is running good, just get yourself protected sh$#head
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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^ says the guy selling all that stuff =P
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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i thought you were making 564whp, was this run at a lower boost lvl?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*cough* traction *cough*</TD></TR></TABLE>

no ****, toss a few cement blocks up under the front bumper and gut the back...

remember, you arent a rwd car with the whole weight of the car on your wheels dude. all you have is whatever weight the engine/tranny/sheet metal above those wheels is...everything is being dragged behind them haha.

time to transfer weight and play with your ET's a little...

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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wow what track do you run at? EVERYwhere here in PA is strick. You run lower than 13 you need helmet, you break 12 you have to have a cage and scattersheild.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow what track do you run at? EVERYwhere here in PA is strick. You run lower than 13 you need helmet, you break 12 you have to have a cage and scattersheild.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't need a cage till 9.99 or 135 MPH, roll bar comes at 11.49.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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ok here comes a flame me question whats the differance.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here comes a flame me question whats the differance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bar = 5-6pt
cage = at least 10pt.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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im gonna have cage work done in my car.. should i go on ahead and get the 10 point since i've gone this far to strip my car anyway?

(sorry for the jack)
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im gonna have cage work done in my car.. should i go on ahead and get the 10 point since i've gone this far to strip my car anyway?

(sorry for the jack)</TD></TR></TABLE>

YES!!!!

Thats the one thing that I regret...is not doing a cage the first time when my whole interior was apart.

Now its going to take me a week just to get the dash out of the car.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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lol, it took me like 3hrs... you must be slow

you wouldnt happen to know the average cost for a 10 point would ya?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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^ says the guy selling all that stuff =P

LMAO THAT WAS GOOD

I NOTICED AFTER THE WHOLE EVENT ORDEAL WAS OVER THAT IT WASNT SMART TO RUN THAT FAST W/O ANY SAFETY EQUIPMENT.......I GOT THE HARNESS, THE JACKET, HELMET, AND MAKING ARANGEMENTS FOR A CAGE LATER THIS WEEK TO RACE IN ORLANDO

IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRAPS.............I JUST EXPECTED 140 OR HIGH 130'S......... THE CAR WASNT AT THE FULL 24 PSI IT WAS TUNED AT SO I KNOW I WASNT AT 565 WHP (@22 PSI ITS LIKE 530).........

THE CAR IS A CIVIC HATCH FULL INTERIOR AND NOW WITH THE CAGE ILL ADD ANOTHER 100 LBS AT LEAST ( UP TO 2660) SO I HAVE 260 LBS TO LOSE......
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I had a best trap of 137 with a 2400LB hatch... putting 524 corrected WHP down... but I'm at 6000feet so it was probably closer to 425-450 WHP uncorrected.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here comes a flame me question whats the differance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A bar has a hoop that goes just behind the drivers head, 2 bars that go to the back of the car, and bars that run diagonal from the hoop behind the driver to the floorboard to the left of the drivers feed. A cage starts with all the same basics as a roll bar, then adds on more tubing. Instead of just having the main hoop behind the driver you have bars running along the roof line up to the trailing edge of the windshield, hooking across to the other side, downtubes coming down that either follow the A-pillar and go through the dash, or come up short of the A-Pillar and dash. Those downtubes then tie into the diagonal braces that run alongside the driver. That's the gist of it, but theres lots of other safety stuff you need too.
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