I think I made a mistake when purchasing my accord, im starting to regret buying the 4cyl, and I was thinking of H22, or turbo the F, or just throw in a stock V6, since this is still gonna be a daily driver I was leaning towards a motor swap instead of forced induction. So I was checking out some stuff and come accorss this motor, V6 3.0-liter i-VTEC Engine from the 2003 inspire.. here is a link, tell me what you guys think of this, would this be the same block used in a USDM V6, would I just need the factory mounts from a V6 accord..?
http://www.honda-acura.net/for...77200
Also I found this motor for sale for $1700.

 

6th Gen accord would be from (98-01)? If its between that year you might wanna research if you can fit in the 3.2CL/TL type S engine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 13lue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6th Gen accord would be from (98-01)? If its between that year you might wanna research if you can fit in the 3.2CL/TL type S engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

6th gen is from 98-02. And the TL-S 6-speed has been swapped into 6th gen.

 

so....I know I have a 6th Gen, its a 2002, I have somewhat looked into the 3.2 TL motor, but I dont know how the install would be, is that the same block as the V6 accord? That was actually my motor of choice, but ive been told that it couldnt work.!
Bionic, do you know of anyone that has done this, cause my only issue is that I dont have a dump truck full o' cash so I cant spend another 4000$ to get a shop to install it for me, I dont have the tools to do it my self if it involves making new mounts and all that stuff.

 

j35 block with j32 cls heads and either a dr evil auto or cls 6spd tranny.

^put that together and swap it in.

 

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Bionic, do you know of anyone that has done this, cause my only issue is that I dont have a dump truck full o' cash so I cant spend another 4000$ to get a shop to install it for me, I dont have the tools to do it my self if it involves making new mounts and all that stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know of anyone personally, who has done this swap, but I know that it has been done before. The labor cost depends on whether you have a manual or auto. The engine and transimission isn't cheap to my knowledge. I think you would spend 4000 on the engine left alone. If your budget is 4000 dollars then the TL-Type S engine swap is out of that range.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Hites" &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">j35 block with j32 cls heads and either a dr evil auto or cls 6spd tranny.

^put that together and swap it in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

j35 being the accord V6 block? and j32 being the Cl head? is it that simple to swap the heads?? and how hard would it be to find cl heads as oposed to the whole motor.
also, what about this motor
http://www.honda-acura.net/for...77200
this seems like it be a good motor, and I can get it for 1700$

 

Werent the V6 accords wider than the 4 cyls because of the engine size?

 

save your self some trouble. Sell the car and buy what you want, or closer to it. Cause, if you do end up swaping it and still don't like it, you would not have wasted even more money. IMO it is nearly impossible to sell a modified car and get equal or even close to the amount of money spent without parting it out and then selling the car.

 

Ya I wish I had the money to buy A TLs , but I dont, so I want to do something that would make me a little happier, like I said , This is a daily driver, and I wont be racing this car in anyway, I just want a little more power..!

 

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It still seems like you may not end up keeping it even after you give it a little more power. If that's the case, then choose your mods wisely. Like I stated about re-couping your funds on a modified car is tough and takes a lot longer than a stock or returned to stock car.

 

Im deffinetly keeping my car, I do not plan on sellind it any time in the near future, ive already put emnough time into it to have gained sentimental value to me..
back to my original question, does any one know anything about this motor??
http://www.honda-acura.net/for...77200
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Hites" &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">j35 block with j32 cls heads and either a dr evil auto or cls 6spd tranny.

^put that together and swap it in. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And can you tell me how simple this would be, (j35 being the V6 accord block? j32 being the TL heads?)
thanks so far for the input..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">j35 being the accord V6 block? and j32 being the Cl head? is it that simple to swap the heads?? and how hard would it be to find cl heads as oposed to the whole motor.
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j35 is the engine out of the odyssey, mdx, and pilot. j32 is the engine used in the cl's and tl's; the cl type s head is the most desireable. i believe the heads are a direct bolt on. im not sure how hard it would be to find the heads as opposed to the entire engine.

 

what kind of install would it be to just put in say, the j35, cause from what I know is that they have alot of torque, why dont people just swap in those motors?
Would that match up to factory AV6 mounting brackets?? Or would it be off, like the TL?

 

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Would that match up to factory AV6 mounting brackets?? Or would it be off, like the TL?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if i remember correctly, theres a hood clearance issue with swapping in any j35. add the cls heads and intake, however, and youre good to go with an engine thats more powerful than any production j-series engines sans the 05+ rl. i do believe mounts are all the same. its like swapping a b20 or b16 into a dc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Hites" &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do believe mounts are all the same. its like swapping a b20 or b16 into a dc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
From what I know theres companies that fabricate mount kits to aid in the install on civics, is there anyone that does that for 6th accords?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so....I know I have a 6th Gen, its a 2002, I have somewhat looked into the 3.2 TL motor, but I dont know how the install would be, is that the same block as the V6 accord? That was actually my motor of choice, but ive been told that it couldnt work.!
Bionic, do you know of anyone that has done this, cause my only issue is that I dont have a dump truck full o' cash so I cant spend another 4000$ to get a shop to install it for me, I dont have the tools to do it my self if it involves making new mounts and all that stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You will need 2 truck loads of cash...

 

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You will need 2 truck loads of cash...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would that be singles, fives, twenties...you get my drift.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1207289
have you guys`seen this? this guy did it.!
So you guys are telling me that a motor out of an Odessey, MDX, or Pilot, would cost me more then a mototr from a TL-s?
Thanks for all input.!

 

You will spend 5k on parts if you have a good connection.

 

well thats a little more than I want to spend, Maybe Ill stick to my Idea of just swapping in a stock motor from an AV6. Or, Has anyone looked at this link yet? I keep posting and no one has any responses to this, Does any one know anything bout this motor?
http://www.honda-acura.net/for...77200

 

That is the motor in current model v6 accords. Will it bolt up? yes. Will it be a cheap swap? No.

Looking for cheap power? Sell your accord and get an El Camino. Or if you are attached, turbo...

 

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speaking of good connections, i have a friend that can get 4 brand new bridgestone potenza re050's for $100.
i might get some avon tech m500's from him.

 

While possible, a V6 swap is not economically feasible nor necessarily an upgrade in performance.

A boosted car will weigh less than a swapped V6 car and be able to make more power.

The entire engine bay would need to be reworked to accomodate the larger engine and fit in all the accessories, a new radiator would be needed, plus a lot of reworking of the transmission, shifter cables, etc.

And I still think the V6 Accords were built a little bit wider to accomodate the V6 engine...

 

Ok, well thanks alot everyone, maybe I will re-consider turboing my F23..
Then again I do love El Caminos.. Good Idea Superslow.!