Can anyone tell me what would happen when you heat up Nitrous. What I mean is for example if I fill nitrous gas ( the mixture you get when you refill bottle, I think it's half nitrous half air) in a sealed can or box ( totally sealed, no air escape at all) and heat it up just a bit but not like hot hot, maybe around temp of 95 F or even little more than 100F. Will the gas expand and eventually explode or will it stay the same form. Will it lose the coldness? I mean what will happen??

 

Didnt you watch F&F? LOL...


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No, Just some thoughts of using nitrous differently. I don't need to produce power for me but I need it to do something else.

 

PV= nRT

increase the temp, you increase the pressure, volume constant because fixed cylinder.

with regards to 'coldness' i think the heating of the bottle helps the NO2 'atomize'
to increase its surface area to help combustion..

hth. any other suggestions..

 

One more thing, the nitrous is pressurized in the sealed box when it's heated up. Two factors:
Will it expand and explode?
What will happen to the temperture of the nitrous after heating it?

 

All right, now we getting somewhere.
I understand the equation. The pressure will rise due to the heat.
Now, bottle warmer helps it atomize but I don't need it to help doing so, what I'm saying is will it lose the freezing point? If so, how long the freezing point last when heated up around 95 F. I don't understand too much about this element combination but I need to find out if NO2 can keep the coldness for awhile under heat. I hope NO2 is different from regular air from the formula you suppied or at least won't be affected as much.


[Modified by [Evo]Hybrid, 8:04 AM 1/27/2002]

 

when you heat the bottle, u heat the nitrous inside, this drive the pressure up.


will it explode, really dont know never tried

hth

 

you cant really 'freeze' a gas, just make it less dense...
it being cold, less 'atomization'

the rate of coolng depends on the temp of its surroundings..

 

LOL, I might just try it, of coarse not in my car but in my oven haha. Thanks thou, i need some kind of chemical gas or liquid not too expensive but will keep the freezing point under heat and will not expand much or at all.

 

ah, so you are saying chemical gas is cold due to less atomizing. Make sense to me, need to go back to my chemical teach hehe ( shouldn't skip her class back in the days). Hum... I guess my theory wouldn't work then. How bout Freon that is used in AC system?

 

i really dont know what youre trying to do but
i wouldnt suggest inhaling large amounts of freon [img]http://www.ubrf.org/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_nono.gif[img]
very bad.. and nitrous isnt any better..

 

not really true for ALL gases, it depends on the gas....
but with nitrous and its application in cars yes..

hth

and my thingy doesnt work...lets try it again..

 

I thought that the way nitrous works, is when the NO2 (1 part Nitrogen, 2 Parts Oxygen) heats up or combusts, the Oxygen molecules are released and ignited thus the increase in power. Maybe thats what everyone in here is saying, everyones just using fancy words.

EDIT: oh never mind, the original poster just wanted to know what happens when you "heat" nitrous up a bit.


[Modified by BlueShadow, 9:09 AM 1/27/2002]

 

NO2 molecule start releasing Oxygen around temperture of 500 to 600 degree. Any temperture below that, it still stays it's original form.

 

Are you actually going to try to heat N2O in the oven?

BAD Idea.

Although NOS is not a fuel, it is an oxidizer, and if the canister you have the N20 in ruptures, and the O2 reaches flame, it will cause a major explosion.

Bottle warmers usually keep the bottle at about 95 degrees. When you heat the bottle, the N20 molecules move around faster causing more pressure. Too much pressure and the bottle could explode.

Hense these pictures.....




That is what happens when you continue to heat a bottle, and don't pay attention to the bottle pressure.

Also, the N20 bottles that are sold, are tested to 2000PSI, and need to be tested every 5 years for strength.

HTH.

 

Evo: did I miss somthing? What are you planning on doing with the N02?

 

there is a difference between NO2 and N2O
BIG difference....just being as *** here
i too have a spelling error above...haha..! sorry

nitrous oxide (N2O) is the gas used in cars, laughing gas, etc etc... http://www.c-f-c.com/specgas_products/nitrous.htm

and nitrogen dioxide (NO2) is another gas all together...toxic shnit http://www.c-f-c.com/specgas_product...en-dioxide.htm

this is NOS spelled with an "S" just a tid bit to educate the masses..

 

alright alright, I'm not a chemist here so that is why I ask LOL. Anyway, thanks for correcting the spelling and giving the infos and pictures.
But man, that is some explosion hehe. Time to search for another type of chemical.


[Modified by [Evo]Hybrid, 7:23 AM 1/28/2002]

 

ive been thinking about it and i really like the CO2 idea:
cheap, easy, safe, and it does the trick...

hth, but i will definitely give u a few more options..


peace.

 

opps that was my bad, I thought that it was N02 (1 part nitro, 2 part oxygen) Know I know that its N20 (2 parts nitro, 1 part oxygen)

 

okay, let me know what you come up with.

 

ok, talked to a few peeps ans this is what i can suggest...

CO2 (i like this one because safe, cheap, and easy) it mimmics
natural air cooling and flow

Alcohol (1,2 diol) basically Prestone antifreeze in your application
it takes a lot of heat to raise its temp by 1 degree...so it wont heat up fast
and stay 'cool'

Propane its flammable but it freezes its canister like a ****
when it comes out at high pressures..

damn, go with all three...it is possible...
the CO2 and propane would give u
an environment with less oxygen, and less chance of the
propane igniting...

and the antifreeze would also help with air/liquid heat transfer..

good luck...and dont get hurt experimenting...