I have a 99 4dr. Civic with Skunk2 lowering springs (2.5 inch drop) and was wondering what would be better? The yellows or the agx? I have the Skunk2 springs on my car rite now and they ride nice. It's juss dat i need new shocks cuz my stock shocks r blown. Does anyone have any suggestions on what shocks should i get? My 2 options are the AGX and the yellows because many ppl say there like the best shocks out there.


Modified by krazyk at 2:04 PM 3/29/2005

 

if price isnt an issue koni for sure

 

koni for sure kyb agx struts are bouncy and seem to not last as long as Koni's do...i agree with 93ejay1!:-)

 

I didn't spent a lot more money to get the Konis for no reason

Koni Sport

 

I had AGX's before Koni's and can tell you that it is a night and day differnce between the two. The Koni's hands down 10x better than the AGX's. The AGX are good steet shock and ok autoxcross/track shock. The konis are awesome at both.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if price isnt an issue koni for sure</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even if price is an issue GET KONI. The slight difference in performance between stock and the KYB is not wirth the time and money of doing the swap. The large performance difference between Koni and stock is worth the time and money.

If you don't have enough money for Konis wait until you do.

regards,
Alan "who wasted his money buying Tokicos, then wasted his money buying modified Bilstiens, but finally spent his money wisely and bought Konis"

 

the 2.5" drop is too low for OTS konis. you'd need em shortened to have enough travel.

you could put em on anyway, in OEM form, but you might blow them, and have to get em fixed.

 

I vote koni... but i also think 2.5 for OTS is too low... Lee might say something different but for "street" use i'm going to bet its just too low.

 

koni

 

Did anyone else notice a huge difference when changing from the AGX to the Koni yellows? Thanks!

 

http://superstreetonline.com/p...back3/

 

Im sorry im a little confused. What does OTS mean? I have a friend on Koni yellow and ground control and I know forsure he has atleast a 3inch drop and shocks are ok. Sorry for the confusion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by radio1global &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does OTS mean?</TD></TR></TABLE>
"Off-the-shelf," as in the way they come from the factory (i.e. single adjustable, not revalved or shortened).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a friend on Koni yellow and ground control and I know forsure he has atleast a 3inch drop and shocks are ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If they're OTS Konis and default GC rates, then for sure he has no shock travel either, and is riding either on the bump stops or too close to them. Hopefully he still has enough bump stop on there to protect the shock from internally bottoming and destroying itself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FrostyDC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did anyone else notice a huge difference when changing from the AGX to the Koni yellows? Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i did but i also change spring rates, but the koni's were over all better.

 

just a quick question, whats the biggest slick you can run with a lowered car. im considering this before i buy shocks/springs. making me think more about coilovers

 

i vote for konis and i have agx,

 

I'd say get the konis because even if they do blow, they come with a lifetime warranty

James

 

are you talking about tokico iilluminas?? If so how are they compared to the agx and the yellows? I know they arent as good as the konis but they are good for the money.

 

i LOVE my koni's. you will too if you break down and buy them. i've never seen anyone disapointed they bought koni's.

and its not just a bandwagon thing either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jedi_Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say get the konis because even if they do blow, they come with a lifetime warranty

James</TD></TR></TABLE>

more reasons to purchase

are both AGX and Koni Yellows 5 way adjustable?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r3v &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

more reasons to purchase

are both AGX and Koni Yellows 5 way adjustable?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They are single adjustable.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondakid1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i vote for konis and i have agx, </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r3v &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are both AGX and Koni Yellows 5 way adjustable?</TD></TR></TABLE>

first of all, you wouldnt call a shock "5 way adjustable" by the number of adjustment increments. a "2 way" adjustable shock will adjust 2 DIFFERENT characteristics, ie rebound and compession. usually its just single adjustment which is either rebound alone, or both rebound and compression simultaneously.

koni's dont have incremental adjustment. just a continuous ****. i dont know how many distinct settings agx has. but looking at the shock graph, it doesnt look like they offer much range of adjustment.

if you want a good adjustable shock, get tokico illuminas. koni's are great according to many ppl's experience. but i like my tokicos. i can definately tune the comfort of my suspension for the street.

 

Koni Sports are the best. From looking at the comparison shock dyno's in the other thread, the AGX don't do much of anything when you adjust them. The Illuminas are much better than AGX, but they cannot touch the adjustment range of the Koni Sports. After all, the larger adjustment range you have, the more flexible the shocks will be as your needs/tastes change while owning the vehicle. Oh yeah, the lifetime warranty doesn't hurt either.

PS: remember that if you want coil-overs, you must use the special Ground Control ones (specifically for Koni's) otherwise you will void your Warranty...

Also, if you notice in my picture that the brake line bracket supports the lower fork on the shock body. If you shave the brake line bracket down (or remove it completely) you can mount the fork higher on the shock body. This will add a considerable amount of travel to the front suspension (good for lowered cars). Look for my 2nd post in the "Koni Shock Install" thread at the top of the suspension forum for a write-up from the Koni man (CRX Lee) himself...

Whorin' out my Koni suspension pic again:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i LOVE my koni's. you will too if you break down and buy them. i've never seen anyone disapointed they bought koni's.

and its not just a bandwagon thing either. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sometimes i feel like a bandwagon jumper b/c i recommend konis to everyone and everything, or like i'm a psuedo koni employee, but it really is that koni yellows are the best shock available for hondas that aren't named moton, penske, or super bling konis.

no other performance, non-remote-reservoir shock gives you the range, the versatility, the reliability, and quality that the koni yellows do, and do it at the same price.

but, the illuminas are a solid unit, esp if you don't demand too much from them from a performance standpoint (aka street driving), and the AGX with the right spring rates will probably work fine too.