not an auto xer or anything just wanted some new stickes for my dailey driver
thanks to all who reply

 

it's fine.

 

Overkill for a daily driver but it will fit with no problems.

 

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agreed....way way too loud

 

And the rain. Bad memories. Never knew TypeR can do donuts that day.

 

will fit fine and they are great daily tires
A phiphilion times better than EES 100's BTW

 

We're talking about the 205/50-15. People here have reported that the old Falken Azenis (RT-215) will fit on the stock 15x6 wheels, but they handle better on wider aftermarket 15x7 wheels.

I have not yet heard from anyone who has tried mounting the new Falken Azenis (RT-615) on stock 15x6 wheels. Anyone done this? If so, how do they fit - about the same as the old ones? Has anyone held them side by side to see if the new Azenis is as wide as the old one (which tended to be wider than other tires of the same 205/50-15 nominal size)?

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Different tires are good at different things. The Yokohama ES100 does some things significantly better than the old Azenis (lasts 2-3 times as many miles, and grips a lot better in the rain, particularly less susceptible to hydroplaning on standing water), the old Azenis does some things significantly better than the ES100 (better dry traction and handling, better autocross lap times), and in some respects (low purchase price, road noise) they are roughly equal. The new Azenis will probably be similar to the old Azenis in most respects, and slightly better in some. It's up to you to decide which priorities matter the most TO YOU, and get the tire that performs best based on those characteristics you care the most about.

Up until now, no single tire is the best at everything or the best choice for everyone, and that is not likely to change.

 

They fit fine but feel very sloppy on the stock rims. The dry grip is good but the steering feel is . You feel them settle back a few moments after quick steering inputs. When I'm done turning the wheel I like my tires to stop moving instantly instead of bobbing around for a split second.

Besides that though they are great tires for the price and they do fine even in the rain as long as you keep a watch on the tread depth. I live in the rainest city in the continental US and put 800mi a week on my Azenis equipped ride so that should validate my opinion a little

If you complain about road noise in an ITR you'r driving the wrong car IMO.

 

I still don't understand why people want azenis for a daily driver. Do you live in an area with no rain?

Yes - I've raced in the rain with them & on a smooth track they do just fine.

NO - it makes no sense to purposely go out to buy them just for the street.

fwiw - I have a 3rd kaa for driving & that's why I leave the azenis on = lazy.

I guess "BE CAREFUL"....nuf said.

**EDIT - I guess I should have read that you're in vegas Now I'm jealous - bastaaaaad

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still don't understand why people want azenis for a daily driver. Do you live in an area with no rain?

Yes - I've raced in the rain with them & on a smooth track they do just fine.

NO - it makes no sense to purposely go out to buy them just for the street.

fwiw - I have a 3rd kaa for driving & that's why I leave the azenis on = lazy.

I guess "BE CAREFUL"....nuf said.

**EDIT - I guess I should have read that you're in vegas Now I'm jealous - bastaaaaad </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't get your arguement? You said you've raced on them in the rain and they do fine.

They are cheap and sticky and do fine in the rain.

 

Fine in the rain compared to what? The ES100 and S03 are FAR superior to the azenis in almost every condition, besides dry handling. And dry handling should not be the #1 priority in choosing a daily driven tire.

 

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um.... i think that's what nsxstasy said......

 

I've daily driven/Auto X'd/HPDE'd Azenis on OEM wheels for over a year now, They feel sloppy when they are at street PSI. However, they get a little firmer as you go up in PSI obviously.

IMO, they are fine so long as you don't drive like an idiot in bad weather. That also goes for any tire though.

I'm upgrading wheels this season. 15x7 Kosei K1's and Azenis should be a nice combo for me

 

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Well the Dude lives in the Desert so I thought he had dry climate like me here in Socal. But your argument on how ES100's are comparible to Azenis is Ludacris, Ive had both and for hot mostly weather their is no comparison. The grip on the ES100's is the worst. The only thing better about them is there performance in the rain, their quiet, and their "LOW-Pro Stunna" look. If you want a race inspired street tire get the Azenis, you want a long lasting "lo-pro" buy the ES100's but dont forget your Lamborgini doors.

 

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you want a long lasting "lo-pro" buy the ES100's but dont forget your Lamborgini doors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF?...

 

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Jeez Louise... Looks like some people are more interested in flaming (and showing that they can't spell words like "ludicrous" and "guillotine" - hey, we can't all spell well, but don't use words you can't spell for your username ) than in understanding the differences between one tire and another.

The ES100 is a damn good tire, and it's only about a third the price of the Azenis, when you take into account how long it lasts. No, it won't stick on dry pavement as well as the Azenis, or the OEM RE010, or some other tires - but those tires cost 2-3 times more money on a per-mile basis. If you don't need that ultimate stick (or if it's not important enough that you are willing to replace your tires every 10-12K miles or worry about driving in the rain) then the ES100 is an excellent choice. And you can count on getting anywhere from 20 to 40K miles on a set. And if, OTOH, you only care about traction on dry pavement, get the Azenis; it's an excellent tire for that purpose. It's your choice, based on your preferences.

Saying "the only thing better about them" means that you realize that there ARE things that are better about them. That's right! And some people WANT those other things that are better. Some people care about grip while driving in the rain; others don't. Some people don't want to change tires every 10-12K miles; others don't mind. Some people want to get the most dry traction they can; others don't. There are different tires for different priorities - "different strokes for different folks". Don't diss other people just because their priorities are different from yours.

 

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Jeez Louise... Looks like some people are more interested in flaming (and showing that they can't spell words like "ludicrous" and "guillotine" - hey, we can't all spell well, but don't use words you can't spell for your username ) than in understanding the differences between one tire and another.

The ES100 is a damn good tire, and it's only about a third the price of the Azenis, when you take into account how long it lasts. No, it won't stick on dry pavement as well as the Azenis, or the OEM RE010, or some other tires - but those tires cost 2-3 times more money on a per-mile basis. If you don't need that ultimate stick (or if it's not important enough that you are willing to replace your tires every 10-12K miles or worry about driving in the rain) then the ES100 is an excellent choice. And you can count on getting anywhere from 20 to 40K miles on a set. And if, OTOH, you only care about traction on dry pavement, get the Azenis; it's an excellent tire for that purpose. It's your choice, based on your preferences.

Saying "the only thing better about them" means that you realize that there ARE things that are better about them. That's right! And some people WANT those other things that are better. Some people care about grip while driving in the rain; others don't. Some people don't want to change tires every 10-12K miles; others don't mind. Some people want to get the most dry traction they can; others don't. There are different tires for different priorities - "different strokes for different folks". Don't diss other people just because their priorities are different from yours.
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BURN!!! Spelling your username wrong is just sad.

 

fit great. i put my 205 50 15 's on last night at work. went on pretty easy compared to some low pro tires iv mounted

going to be my daily driver tires, so we'll see how they feel in other weather

 

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Jeez Louise... Looks like some people are more interested in flaming (and showing that they can't spell words like "ludicrous" and "guillotine" - hey, we can't all spell well, but don't use words you can't spell for your username ) than in understanding the differences between one tire and another.


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okay, Guilotine is a play on words, my name is Guillermo and I wanted a clever screename. Your spelling abilities (or ability to use spell check) have nothing to do with this thread. BTW dork if you would of read his question you would of seen that he was asking if Azenis fit on a 6in wheel, not about how much you like ES100's
BTW: if your trying to justify Es100's vs. Azenis it is only like a $10 per tire difference

 

yes they will fit. although i wouldnt recomend if to daily driver. bad treadwear.

i recommend toyo proxe 4s. friend has them on his RSX-s and he loves them on his DD.

 

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So your name has two L's, the word guillotine has two L's, and that's why you decided to create a username with one L. Makes perfect sense.

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Hey! The dork knows how to spell the word "dork"!

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YOU'RE the one who was dissing the ES100. If you would HAVE (not "of") read his question, you would HAVE (not "of") seen that he was asking whether Azenis fit on a 15x6 wheel, not about how much YOU hate the ES100.

I bet you've never tried the ES100. Am I right?

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Apparently you have problems with reading comprehension, in addition to your inability to spell. If you had read my posts, you would see that the ES100 is a whole lot cheaper than the Azenis because it lasts 2-3 times as many miles. Let's use the most common figures, and say you get 12K miles to a set of Azenis, and 30K miles to a set of ES100. And let's say you drive 60K miles. If you use Azenis (RT-215), you will use five sets of tires. Five sets of Azenis cost ($71/tire)x(4 tires)x(5 sets) = $1420 plus $300 for mounting/balancing five times = $1720. If you use the Yokohama ES100, you will use two sets of tires. Two sets of ES100 cost ($61/tire)x(4 tires)x(2 sets)=$488 plus $120 for mounting/balancing twice = $608. That means that the Azenis cost almost THREE TIMES as much as the ES100 on a per-mile basis, when you take into account how often you need to replace each tire.

 

Kids these days... *shakes head*

 

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ok dude your the best and you win, Ive never owned ES 100's and you are the spelling bee champ. Have a nice day

 

my R is now a daily driver and will be from now on out. i have toyo proxies TPT on it i understand is an all season tire(even though it is directional) hell it came with the car and was brand new. I know that great tires can really make a difference so thats why i asked about the azenis. I might just go with the OE
potenzas

 

The OEM Bridgestone RE010 (in 195/55-15) is another excellent tire. Excellent handling and dry traction, very good on wet pavement (when there is decent tread depth). It's a bit pricey at ~$130/tire, which works out about the same as the Azenis on a cost-per-mile basis (they typically last 15-20K miles - longer than the Azenis, not as long as the ES100). That's what I'm using on my ITR on the street (not on the track, though, where I've heard the RE010 has a tendency to chunk). I love 'em.

Lots of good choices in tires out there, it just depends on what you're looking for...