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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Default Should I install a JRSC myself? need advice from those running a JRSC.

First off, I don't post much here, just kinda lurk and soak up what info I can. I'm driving a 98 prelude, base model, 5spd, 66k mi, bone stock, in very good condition all around.

Well, I've decided that if I can come up with the cash for a JRSC, I'd like to go ahead with getting that done. To start I'd just like to run the SC w/ the few recommended extras, intake, plugs, new fuel filter, etc. Ideally I would LOVE to install it myself, I think it'd be a fun project, and I'd love to say I did it myself, but I'm not so sure how involved the process is, and if I can handle it myself. I've downloaded the installation instructions and have actually read most of it. But without actually doing it, its hard to tell what the experience will be like. What I'm looking for is some advice from those who are running a JRSC on their prelude, and more specifically, from those who have done the install themselves. I have access to a garage with a lift, and possibly the help of a car guy, but he doesn't work with imports, so i'm not sure how much he can help exactly. I figure he'd be helpful is overseeing things. If somebody could give me some insight into the process of install, that would be friggin awesome. Somebody recommended I talk to sharkcohen, but I couldn't get in contact with him directly, so if you're reading this, I'd love some of ur knowledge

Second part, if I decide against doing the instlal myself, what am I looking at for a shop to install it, and tune it, if necessary for the minimal setup I'm looking to start with.

Thanks all.

- Dave
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Install it yourself, it's not hard. This site has very helpful tips for getting it to run properly after you've installed it: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/prelude/
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Yeah, i've read that site over many times. What kind of electronics/tuning work needs to be done? That is the only part I'm not too sure about. I'm pretty sure I can bolt and belt everything up correctly.

I was interested in the movies he has linked, and tried to email him, but have gotten no response. I am thinking of mirroring the information on that site, and updating it on my own server, with the owners permission of course, as it hasn't been updated in years.

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Well, there's not really much to 'tune'. You need to set the fuel pressure properly by adjusting the FMU (or as the instructions call it, the RRFPR), and that will require a fuel pressure gauge. The link I posted explains how to do this. You'll need to set the Boost Timing Controller (turn a ****) to back off enough timing so there is no detonation. You really should have the car on a dyno with a wideband to do all of this. If you decide to try to do this on the street yourself, you should at least have an onboard wideband.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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I've been assembling a list of parts that I'm going to need. Anything that I am missing. I don't really wanna get into messing with a VAFC for what little gains it would give, and Hondata is outta my league I think. I just want a little boost Thanks for the help, please don't mind my questions, just tryna get as much info as possible while not looking like a complete dumbass.

JRSC Kit
- fuel pump
- fuel pressure regulator

AND

new fuel filter
1step colder spark plugs
redline ww
boost guage
A/F guage
FP guage


- Dave
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Boost is nothing without proper tuning.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Thats what I've heard, how much is tuning going to cost me? And is a standalone unit really worth it? You're making 240+whp off the JRSC? What other mods are you running, and I know Hondata is greater than all else, but what would you recommend as a mild tuning solution?
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Atrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats what I've heard, how much is tuning going to cost me? And is a standalone unit really worth it? You're making 240+whp off the JRSC? What other mods are you running, and I know Hondata is greater than all else, but what would you recommend as a mild tuning solution?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it will be well worth the money, and to ensure that you maximize power and have it last longer
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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I also read that at my mileage, it may be a good idea to replace the radiator, help keep the motor as cool as possible. So can anybody give me some details about the installation process, I need to convince myself either way on doin this install.

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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The install is very straight forward, everything is bolt on. The only 'fabrication' you need to do is bend the brake lines carefully toward the fender. The instructions are a little vague in a few spots, so I would highly recommend getting a Helm manual to fill in the gaps.

If you have an imagestation account, you can check out my install pics: http://www.imagestation.com/al...93971

You'll see that I removed the intake manifold. This is not necessary during the install. I did this because I was also installing the Hondata intake manifold gasket, which I highly recommend.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Should I install a JRSC myself? need advice from those running a JRSC. (sharkcohen)

What kind of time frame would I be looking at? I figure probably 3 days to be safe, is this realistic? I haven't done any work on my car, aside from changing the oil, and I really wanna do something with it to learn about the car, sometimes I just feel like taking parts of it out, and back on, just to get familiar with it, for lack of money for parts How much power are you making, and with what setup, what would you suggest I do for tuning, anything besides adjusting the fuel pressure?

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Again, if you just run the JRSC kit, the only things to adjust are the fuel pressure and the Boost Timing Controller, both of which need to be set up correctly so that the car will run properly and safely. There are engine management alternatives that you could puchase for the setup, but we've covered all of that in past threads, I really suggest doing some searches regarding that.

It's hard to say how long it would take you. It took me about 5 days, it's taken other people less, and other people more. If I had to do it again, I could get it done in a weekend, but that's because I know what I'm doing now.

I have an auto, I'm making about 200 whp.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Yea, I'll definatley do the searches and looking into my tuning options, I was just looking to see if you could run the kit safely and make decent power with what equipment it comes with, or what is in the list I posted. I really appreciate your help, thanks for dealin with all my bullshit questions

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Well that's the thing, for some people the kit alone has been more than sufficient, while for others the kit has run too lean regardless of fuel pressure. It's been a crapshoot, and it could turn out to be inadequate for you. That's why you need to adjust it with a wideband O2.
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