Cam choice question
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Which cam or cams on the market provide the highest horsepower gains? Are there any to stay away from? Which are better for road racing dedicated car? My B18C5 has the following: AEM CAI, Toda Header, Apexi exhaust, fuel pressure reg, Apexi Power FC.
Which cam or cams on the market provide the highest horsepower gains? Are there any to stay away from? Which are better for road racing dedicated car? My B18C5 has the following: AEM CAI, Toda Header, Apexi exhaust, fuel pressure reg, Apexi Power FC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just4fun »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While searching I could not find any topics that fit my question.
Which cam or cams on the market provide the highest horsepower gains? Are there any to stay away from? Which are better for road racing dedicated car? My B18C5 has the following: AEM CAI, Toda Header, Apexi exhaust, fuel pressure reg, Apexi Power FC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it real racing or HPDE? What rules do you have, if racing? Can you bump the compression ratio, change valvesprings or valves, do head work?
Does this car see any street time at all?

-Chris
Which cam or cams on the market provide the highest horsepower gains? Are there any to stay away from? Which are better for road racing dedicated car? My B18C5 has the following: AEM CAI, Toda Header, Apexi exhaust, fuel pressure reg, Apexi Power FC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it real racing or HPDE? What rules do you have, if racing? Can you bump the compression ratio, change valvesprings or valves, do head work?
Does this car see any street time at all?

-Chris
Stock or modded bottom end?
If you're going all out - you will need to increase compression ratio to take full advantage of the high-lift, long duration cams.
You also need custom ECU, tuning, 2.5" exhaust, injectors and more tuning
If you're going all out - you will need to increase compression ratio to take full advantage of the high-lift, long duration cams.
You also need custom ECU, tuning, 2.5" exhaust, injectors and more tuning
Good questions!!! The car will no longer see the public street, track only. Going to use the Honda-Challenge rules and will most likely race in the Honda-Challenge this year, but will also run in some ITE (SCCA) races too. Will also instruct with some various clubs, so the car will see the track a lot. I don't want something that involves a lot of maintenance.
[EDIT] - currently stock bottom end, but looking to install some CTR pistons within the next few months. Can I get something like a stage 3 cam, then a couple months later do the pistons?
[EDIT] - currently stock bottom end, but looking to install some CTR pistons within the next few months. Can I get something like a stage 3 cam, then a couple months later do the pistons?
You want minimal maintenance, stay stock.
You want the most power for a roadcourse, Toda C's + raise compression.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
You want the most power for a roadcourse, Toda C's + raise compression.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You want minimal maintenance, stay stock.
You want the most power for a roadcourse, Toda C's + raise compression.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What would be the added maintence from a new valve train?
You want the most power for a roadcourse, Toda C's + raise compression.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What would be the added maintence from a new valve train?
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What would be the added maintence from a new valve train?</TD></TR></TABLE>
More frequent valve adjustments and timing belt replacements are two main items that immediately come to mind.
What would be the added maintence from a new valve train?</TD></TR></TABLE>
More frequent valve adjustments and timing belt replacements are two main items that immediately come to mind.
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I've just posted a thread in the All motor forum (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1186855)
It's not totally related to this post since they are two different motors but the numbers with that setup are good IMO but then what do I know
It's not totally related to this post since they are two different motors but the numbers with that setup are good IMO but then what do I know
Thanks, I'll take a look at the link.
OK, replacement of timing belts and valve adjustment isn't something I justify as A LOT of maintenance. Now, if I had to take off the head to inspect valves or send it off regularly, then I would say that would be A LOT of maintenance. So, with that said. What are the cams that produce the highest horsepower with CTR pistons?
[EDIT] To rank the different cams (highest horsepower gain and no problems) from highest to lowest, where would the following be ranked (feel free to add any I did not)? Toda Spec C, Skunk Stage 3, Buddy Club Stage 3+, Buddy Club Stage 4, Crower 63402-2, etc.
Modified by just4fun at 6:03 AM 3/22/2005
OK, replacement of timing belts and valve adjustment isn't something I justify as A LOT of maintenance. Now, if I had to take off the head to inspect valves or send it off regularly, then I would say that would be A LOT of maintenance. So, with that said. What are the cams that produce the highest horsepower with CTR pistons?
[EDIT] To rank the different cams (highest horsepower gain and no problems) from highest to lowest, where would the following be ranked (feel free to add any I did not)? Toda Spec C, Skunk Stage 3, Buddy Club Stage 3+, Buddy Club Stage 4, Crower 63402-2, etc.
Modified by just4fun at 6:03 AM 3/22/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by just4fun »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks, I'll take a look at the link.
OK, replacement of timing belts and valve adjustment isn't something I justify as A LOT of maintenance. Now, if I had to take off the head to inspect valves or send it off regularly, then I would say that would be A LOT of maintenance. So, with that said. What are the cams that produce the highest horsepower with CTR pistons? Toda Spec C, then Skunk Stage 3, and so on??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny how you twisted my words around to fit your needs.
Please reread what I wrote. Which I still stand bye.
There are successful H1 cars on Toda C's. You might want to look at the specs of some of them.
My point is that if you want to track as often and as inexpensively and easily as possible without having to worry about any or many extra issues, Stay Stock.
Just be forewarned that there are more issues & cost with the mods you desire than not. We won't blame reliability because many times issues related to that type of failure is the mechanics and or installer error.
But for certain, Maintenance should be more meticulous and frequent.
I never said not to do it, I just said you can't have your cake and eat it too.
I have seen first hand the failures and issues related to just normal DE's and hot cam setups. And I'm happy when I'm still driving when the others are pitting in for whatever issues.
To each his own, best of luck. And even I sometimes think about going this route, but I eventually see some sort of issue of failure or something being trailered home when I'm still out there enjoying the track. Tends to keep my desires in check.
OK, replacement of timing belts and valve adjustment isn't something I justify as A LOT of maintenance. Now, if I had to take off the head to inspect valves or send it off regularly, then I would say that would be A LOT of maintenance. So, with that said. What are the cams that produce the highest horsepower with CTR pistons? Toda Spec C, then Skunk Stage 3, and so on??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny how you twisted my words around to fit your needs.
Please reread what I wrote. Which I still stand bye.
There are successful H1 cars on Toda C's. You might want to look at the specs of some of them.
My point is that if you want to track as often and as inexpensively and easily as possible without having to worry about any or many extra issues, Stay Stock.
Just be forewarned that there are more issues & cost with the mods you desire than not. We won't blame reliability because many times issues related to that type of failure is the mechanics and or installer error.
But for certain, Maintenance should be more meticulous and frequent.
I never said not to do it, I just said you can't have your cake and eat it too.
I have seen first hand the failures and issues related to just normal DE's and hot cam setups. And I'm happy when I'm still driving when the others are pitting in for whatever issues.
To each his own, best of luck. And even I sometimes think about going this route, but I eventually see some sort of issue of failure or something being trailered home when I'm still out there enjoying the track. Tends to keep my desires in check.
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