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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Default No Brakes!!

well, i am exaggerating.
when going 20 MPH, I hit the brakes as hard as I can, the pedal sinks to the floor, and the car stops in like 30 feet. I would extimate the stoping power being at 20% of a normal car.
yes, system was bled correctly
yes, i just replaced the pads and rotors.
yes, the car has integra suspention and brakes
previous owner claims to have replaced the master cylinder

any ideas of what the problem is?

a friend says that it may be because the drum brakes are worn, that they are taking all of the pressure out of the system. he says, adjust the ebrake cable and you will be fine. i dont think so though. i had a mechanic check it out, and he said that its not a leak, and not the master cylinder.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

if all you did was replace the pads and rotors i would start wih a master cylinder.
if you just did the suspension swap, make sure the calipers are on the correct side.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matto23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, the car has integra suspention and brakes
previous owner claims to have replaced the master cylinder

a friend says that it may be because the drum brakes are worn</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you have full integra brakes, then you shouldnt have drums...

i had a problem very similar to yours, and it was caused by a bad MC. i would check for leaks 1st
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (dantastic)

correct, it is not a full integra swap.

the previous owner says that the MC was replaced. also the mech said it wasn't the MC, or a leak. however, I'm with you, i think its the MC or a leak. i guess there is no way around it. i have to go to a shop. i was just being cheap, and wanted to see if i could fix the problem my self.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

ok next question.
i have a 93 Civic LX
94 Integra Front Brakes and suspention.

which make/model MC do i need?
and what is that size? I noticed dantastic used 15/16. is that what i would need? will it bolt right up?

sorry for noob questions
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

if you only replaced your front brakes your stock mc should work fine if you want the bigger mc you can get one off a 90-91 civic ex 4 door that will be a 15/16 or to use one off a teg you'll need to get the booster also
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (EGDC2CIVIC)

cool thanks a lot man.
i hope i don't need to replace the MC, but if i do, i know what to get now.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

Did you put the brake booster vacuum hose back on? I would guess you didn't bleed the brakes properly or you have a leak somewhere in the system.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (GZR4DR)

crap, i am not going to see the car until friday, but do you know of the vaccum hose connects to the IM, if so, i doubt it is connected.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

i have the same problem when i installed rear disc conversion, but after i keep on bleeding and bleeding, it solved my problem
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Brake Booster maybe?
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andres-eh2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake Booster maybe?</TD></TR></TABLE>

id say check the booster too Thats what was wrong with my car when the brake pedal would sink to the floor.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (Ignitecivic)

so you think i should just buy a think of brake fuild and bleed the **** out of it?? lol

about the booster: i will try that last, after the bleeding, ebrake adjustment, and maybe new rear drums.

thanks a lot guys
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Default Re: No Brakes!! (matto23)

Cause someone says that they changed something doesn't mean that they did. You should check on that for yourself.
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