ok..i already have the sway bar, bushing with d-bracket, and endlinks.
what else do i need to put this in a 00si coupe??
and what is the beaks kit?

 

I'd get the A-Spec Racing rear subframe reinforcement kit.

 

http://www.beaksproducts.com

 

BSQ kit

But I'm not positive if it will fit on a EM1.

 

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Not guaranteed to prevent subframe tear-out, unfortunately.

 

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ASR is? Will they pay for my repair if it does rip out?

 

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ASR is? Will they pay for my repair if it does rip out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Will Beaks?

If this car is driven on the street a type-r rear sway is a bad IDEA, if you are going to auto-x or hpde its probaly ok. Why risk tearing out your subframe for a street driven car? Why increase the risk of having a car that will oversteer more on the street? If you want the car to handel better, looks into some eibach drops springs it will be a a good econimical upgrade and you will not have to worry about subframe tear out.

 

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someone said "Not guaranteed to prevent subframe tear-out, unfortunately" ... this statement implies that Beaks will cause tearout and that ASR is guaranteed to prevent it. This is not the case. There wasn't any reports of a subframe tearout while using a beaks kit for at least a few years after the kit was being used, and even then it's a very rare occurance for a Beaks kitted car to have this issue. ASR's been around for how long?

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Interesting.... I'd say the exact opposite. An ITR bar (and most other suspension components) would be far less stressed on a street-only car than on an HPDE or Auto-X car. I doubt that the addition of an ITR bar would cause uncontrollable oversteer on a street car, unless you're driving like a total jackass.

 

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Interesting.... I'd say the exact opposite. An ITR bar (and most other suspension components) would be far less stressed on a street-only car than on an HPDE or Auto-X car. I doubt that the addition of an ITR bar would cause uncontrollable oversteer on a street car, unless you're driving like a total jackass.
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The reason I say auto-x or HPDE, if you are adding an ITr bar to an autox car this will bump you into a class where aftermarket springs are allowed and most poeple who are doing this have already increase the rear spring rate and this of course will lessen the strees on the subframe, same for HPDE.

On the street with stock springs or even some progressive springs you are definatly going to put some extra strees on the subframe, that could lead to tear out even with some reinforment I seen the pics of cars with both beaks and BSR kits, and I bet if a car was driven enough over time it might even tear out a setup the a-spec or comptech IMHO. Most reinforcment kits are band aid to the real problem, too much bar not enough spring.
Most cars a setup from the factory to understreer so they are more controllable espically in emergency situations, so adding an ITR bar couldmake the are less controllable in a situation that you are not ready for, I never said uncontollable oversteer, but it will oversteer more than stock.

 

thank you all for all your inputs, comments, and concerns, but i still didn't get the answer i was looking for..
is this all i need the sway bar, bushings with d-brackets and endlinks to successfully put this in my civic(em1)??

 

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is this all i need the sway bar, bushings with d-brackets and endlinks to successfully put this in my civic(em1)??</TD></TR></TABLE>

well yeah that's all you need to put it on your car, but it's highly recommended that you use some sort of reinforcement so you don't rip out the rear subframe. As you can imagine a new subframe isn't cheap to replace. Some of the options you have are:

Beaks:
http://www.beaksproducts.com

A-Spec Racing:
http://www.a-spec-racing.com

BSQ:
I have no clue what their website is.

 

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I have no clue what their website is.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html