h22 turbo, which is best?
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h22 turbo, which is best?
The time is near to turbo the h22 in my 6th gen accord. I was told that h22s are not turbo capable. I know this is BS, but I have little experience when it comes to the turbo aspect of building a car. I need to know a good turbo kit for the h22, hopefully one that will fit into a 6th gen accord, and do I need a taller head gasket to lower compression, etc.
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (Subwarrior)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Subwarrior »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The time is near to turbo the h22 in my 6th gen accord. I was told that h22s are not turbo capable. I know this is BS, but I have little experience when it comes to the turbo aspect of building a car. I need to know a good turbo kit for the h22, hopefully one that will fit into a 6th gen accord, and do I need a taller head gasket to lower compression, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that DRAG is one of the only ones that make a kit for a h22 in a Accord,it's good for like 300-325WHP.
The reliability of the motor is going to be in how it's tuned.
I think that DRAG is one of the only ones that make a kit for a h22 in a Accord,it's good for like 300-325WHP.
The reliability of the motor is going to be in how it's tuned.
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (92hybridAccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hybridAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">correction....
the reliability of the motor will depen entirely on HOW IT"S BUILT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correction.....
From my understanding it's stock,just because he stated he thinks he may need a taller head gasket.
So if it's stock it's going to be how it's tuned not how it's build
the reliability of the motor will depen entirely on HOW IT"S BUILT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correction.....
From my understanding it's stock,just because he stated he thinks he may need a taller head gasket.
So if it's stock it's going to be how it's tuned not how it's build
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True. It is going to be determined on how it's tuned. If you're going to do a turbo kit, I think Greddy made one. I know DRAG makes one. Anyway, just be careful of those ringlands. They're weak. Trust me... I know. Check Sig.
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becareful not to run to much boost. The H22a have a weird sleaving and they don't like boost on top of the the h22a is running a closed deck so heat is also a problem. all motor h22 are pretty fast and more reliable
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Wow there's alot of misinformation already in this thread. The H22 is bad for boost becuase of the ringland placement, they crack really easily. With a good tune and conservative boost it can be reliable. The sleeves are actually very strong, they are just made from FRM which means you can't just drop in aluminum pistons, you have to get it sleeved making the H22 more expensive to build.
There is no such thing as not turbo compatible.
There is no such thing as not turbo compatible.
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That's news to me. I never thought ringland placement is why they crack easily. Detonation is what I thought caused ringland failure. You are right, the FRM sleeves are strong but they are not able to accept forged internals. Nothing is turbo incompatible.... hehe... you could boost a lawnmower if you wanted...
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To say a H22 is "bad" for boost makes no sense. It just requires more "attention". Sure its not as strong as a D or B do to its weaker internals, but how many people who get REAL serious about their cars leave their internals stock? I say go with Full Race or wait for PeakBoost"s kit to come out...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pikachu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's news to me. I never thought ringland placement is why they crack easily. Detonation is what I thought caused ringland failure. You are right, the FRM sleeves are strong but they are not able to accept forged internals. Nothing is turbo incompatible.... hehe... you could boost a lawnmower if you wanted... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Detonation is what causes cracked ringlands, but the placement makes them weaker and easier to crack during detonation
Detonation is what causes cracked ringlands, but the placement makes them weaker and easier to crack during detonation
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (dragline)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Subwarrior »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correction.....
The time is near to turbo the h22 in my 6th gen accord. I was told that h22s are not turbo capable. I know this is BS, but I have little experience when it comes to the turbo aspect of building a car. I need to know a good turbo kit for the h22, hopefully one that will fit into a 6th gen accord, and do I need a taller head gasket to lower compression, etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
OK, i am not stating that the turbo setup needs to be tuned to be reliable, but from reading and understanding the comment above, he's not asking for reliability in tuning, he's asking if what he heard about h22's and turbo capability....therefore by the response of saying that tuning is key for the motor, i'm just not agreeing because a few runs on a stock motor will end up in a build of that motor, hence my comments that a good turbo application would be reliable and compatible based on the build of that motor
The time is near to turbo the h22 in my 6th gen accord. I was told that h22s are not turbo capable. I know this is BS, but I have little experience when it comes to the turbo aspect of building a car. I need to know a good turbo kit for the h22, hopefully one that will fit into a 6th gen accord, and do I need a taller head gasket to lower compression, etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
OK, i am not stating that the turbo setup needs to be tuned to be reliable, but from reading and understanding the comment above, he's not asking for reliability in tuning, he's asking if what he heard about h22's and turbo capability....therefore by the response of saying that tuning is key for the motor, i'm just not agreeing because a few runs on a stock motor will end up in a build of that motor, hence my comments that a good turbo application would be reliable and compatible based on the build of that motor
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (92hybridAccord)
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OK, i am not stating that the turbo setup needs to be tuned to be reliable, but from reading and understanding the comment above, he's not asking for reliability in tuning, he's asking if what he heard about h22's and turbo capability....therefore by the response of saying that tuning is key for the motor, I'm just not agreeing because a few runs on a stock motor will end up in a build of that motor, hence my comments that a good turbo application would be reliable and compatible based on the build of that motor </TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree with what your saying I have customer cars with H22's with drag turbo kits that have been running for at least a year ,year and a half on bone stock motors with no problems and are daily driven.
But I have also had cars with broke ring lands to,but they also have alot more than a few runs on them,If your motor is detonating of course it's going to only get a few runs out of it.
If you are running a drag turbo kit or a kit that use a FMU It just not going to last because you are limited to what you can fine tune,you need some kind of EMS if you want any kind of reliability out of your motor.
Tuning is the key..
OK, i am not stating that the turbo setup needs to be tuned to be reliable, but from reading and understanding the comment above, he's not asking for reliability in tuning, he's asking if what he heard about h22's and turbo capability....therefore by the response of saying that tuning is key for the motor, I'm just not agreeing because a few runs on a stock motor will end up in a build of that motor, hence my comments that a good turbo application would be reliable and compatible based on the build of that motor
</TD></TR></TABLE>I disagree with what your saying I have customer cars with H22's with drag turbo kits that have been running for at least a year ,year and a half on bone stock motors with no problems and are daily driven.
But I have also had cars with broke ring lands to,but they also have alot more than a few runs on them,If your motor is detonating of course it's going to only get a few runs out of it.
If you are running a drag turbo kit or a kit that use a FMU It just not going to last because you are limited to what you can fine tune,you need some kind of EMS if you want any kind of reliability out of your motor.
Tuning is the key..
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (dragline)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dragline »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you are running a drag turbo kit or a kit that use a FMU It just not going to last because you are limited to what you can fine tune,you need some kind of EMS if you want any kind of reliability out of your motor.
Tuning is the key..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, and there's really no excuse for running an FMU anymore. There are great programs like Uberdata available now that are cheaper than an FMU so there's no reason to be running obsolete technology like FMU's and booster pumps
If you are running a drag turbo kit or a kit that use a FMU It just not going to last because you are limited to what you can fine tune,you need some kind of EMS if you want any kind of reliability out of your motor.
Tuning is the key..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, and there's really no excuse for running an FMU anymore. There are great programs like Uberdata available now that are cheaper than an FMU so there's no reason to be running obsolete technology like FMU's and booster pumps
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Re: h22 turbo, which is best? (Whitey.)
I appreciate all the advice. My motor is all stock still. The reason I asked the question is I don't want to buy a turbo kit, slap it in and have my motor give me problems. I needed to know if internals etc had to be built first. Which judging from this thread, a resounding yes.
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