Anyone ever run into this problem ( tdc related )
To make things easy and not complicated.
I have the 2 cam gears markes lined up perfectly, I also have the mark on the block and on the crank gear lined up perfectly. ( crank gear= what timing belt rides on ) . Anyways when I go to put the pulley on, its about 2 to 4mm off. So should I go off the crank pulley mark or the block and crank gear mark ? I think going off the piece of plastic and the pulley is not that accurate
This is the bottom mark I'm talking about.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
By the way, in real life the cam gears are lined up perfect
Modified by 90blackcrx at 4:12 PM 3/16/2005
I have the 2 cam gears markes lined up perfectly, I also have the mark on the block and on the crank gear lined up perfectly. ( crank gear= what timing belt rides on ) . Anyways when I go to put the pulley on, its about 2 to 4mm off. So should I go off the crank pulley mark or the block and crank gear mark ? I think going off the piece of plastic and the pulley is not that accurate
This is the bottom mark I'm talking about.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
By the way, in real life the cam gears are lined up perfect
Modified by 90blackcrx at 4:12 PM 3/16/2005
i know u know the answer
i bet if u loosened up that plastic and played with it a little everything would line up.. plastic melts, bends, and deforms. the metal does not.
try taking the plastic off, and see if the mark on the pulley lines upw ith the mark on the oil pump.
i bet if u loosened up that plastic and played with it a little everything would line up.. plastic melts, bends, and deforms. the metal does not.
try taking the plastic off, and see if the mark on the pulley lines upw ith the mark on the oil pump.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnzm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know u know the answer
i bet if u loosened up that plastic and played with it a little everything would line up.. plastic melts, bends, and deforms. the metal does not.
try taking the plastic off, and see if the mark on the pulley lines upw ith the mark on the oil pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I just spent the last hour lining up the pulley, I went off the pulley mark because its so much easier to read. And if you look at the oil pump mark from a different view, it does look off. Anyways I got everything straight but after rotating it around 3 times I'm back where I was yesterday, being the cam gears are off a little bit again. ( this engine came from hmotorsonline.com ) When I took the valve cover off I noticed the cam gears were miss aligned, and the belt looks stock so I don't think anyone ever played around with it.
It also sucks because the tensioner is not tightening the belt enough, I have to put some leverage under it and that means I have to take the pulley off, tighten tensioner, put pulley back on with the cover.
i bet if u loosened up that plastic and played with it a little everything would line up.. plastic melts, bends, and deforms. the metal does not.
try taking the plastic off, and see if the mark on the pulley lines upw ith the mark on the oil pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I just spent the last hour lining up the pulley, I went off the pulley mark because its so much easier to read. And if you look at the oil pump mark from a different view, it does look off. Anyways I got everything straight but after rotating it around 3 times I'm back where I was yesterday, being the cam gears are off a little bit again. ( this engine came from hmotorsonline.com ) When I took the valve cover off I noticed the cam gears were miss aligned, and the belt looks stock so I don't think anyone ever played around with it.
It also sucks because the tensioner is not tightening the belt enough, I have to put some leverage under it and that means I have to take the pulley off, tighten tensioner, put pulley back on with the cover.
what i always do, leave the cover of, and 1 of 2 things, run the bolt down and use it to turn, or just use my hands and put the pulley on without the cover
tension that sucker up i alwasy push on the tensioner with myhands, i dont pry, IMo makes it to tight, and then tighten the tensioner, then take the bottom pulley off and put it all together
degreeing cams in is for this exact reason, becasue nothing is ever perfect
stevbe@ HMO is awesome ive bought a bunch of crap fgrom him
good lukc
tension that sucker up i alwasy push on the tensioner with myhands, i dont pry, IMo makes it to tight, and then tighten the tensioner, then take the bottom pulley off and put it all together
degreeing cams in is for this exact reason, becasue nothing is ever perfect
stevbe@ HMO is awesome ive bought a bunch of crap fgrom him
good lukc
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnzm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what i always do, leave the cover of, and 1 of 2 things, run the bolt down and use it to turn, or just use my hands and put the pulley on without the cover
tension that sucker up i alwasy push on the tensioner with myhands, i dont pry, IMo makes it to tight, and then tighten the tensioner, then take the bottom pulley off and put it all together
degreeing cams in is for this exact reason, becasue nothing is ever perfect
stevbe@ HMO is awesome ive bought a bunch of crap fgrom him
good lukc</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well the tensioner needed a little forcing, and I know its not to tight because when I did not use the leverage, the belt would be loose enough where you could actually watch it jump a little. I tried doing it the stock way, and it was tight only for a few teeth.
Steve is a great guy, although he forgets a few things now and then.
But anyways I am back at square one, where the pulley is lined up and the cam gears are a tad off, or you can say that the other way around, cams lined up but pulley is not. Either way its not off that much, I am a nit picker and I like everything perfect, but to a normal person, there not even gonna notice it.
Its really odd though, I tried for about 2 hours messing around with it, and I have come to the conclusion that one of the marks made at production was mad a tad off. Its just odd because you really don't see these things happen a lot.
tension that sucker up i alwasy push on the tensioner with myhands, i dont pry, IMo makes it to tight, and then tighten the tensioner, then take the bottom pulley off and put it all together
degreeing cams in is for this exact reason, becasue nothing is ever perfect
stevbe@ HMO is awesome ive bought a bunch of crap fgrom him
good lukc</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well the tensioner needed a little forcing, and I know its not to tight because when I did not use the leverage, the belt would be loose enough where you could actually watch it jump a little. I tried doing it the stock way, and it was tight only for a few teeth.
Steve is a great guy, although he forgets a few things now and then.
But anyways I am back at square one, where the pulley is lined up and the cam gears are a tad off, or you can say that the other way around, cams lined up but pulley is not. Either way its not off that much, I am a nit picker and I like everything perfect, but to a normal person, there not even gonna notice it.
Its really odd though, I tried for about 2 hours messing around with it, and I have come to the conclusion that one of the marks made at production was mad a tad off. Its just odd because you really don't see these things happen a lot.
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