im looking for a set of runners for my steel b16 intake flange...im using hayabusa 46mm itbs if that helps?

 

awsome...just the answer i was lookin for

 

i can. hit me with an email: aaronweir@cogeco.ca
here is a set of runners for some webers i made for someone.

 

can you make the head flanges with injector bosses? Interested in something for an intake manifold.

 

Are those MIG'd? Look pretty good. Did you cut your own flanges or do you know of a place that sells the flanges?

 

check sign. those pix are very old i now make cnc im flanges. but it will give you a brief discription of the runners

 

i already have the flange

just need runners for it...hit me with pricing for runners those who have them for sale..... compguy209@hotmail.com

its a steel flange so im pretty sure i need steel runners....unless you can weld aluminum to steel?

 

wouldn't the thermal properties of a steel flange/runners be much less desirable for an intake manifold, than aluminum?

 

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:lightbulb:

Rich

 

guess neither of you have seen these new fangled things that hondata makes that insulates the intake manifold from the head =P

 

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just need runners for it...hit me with pricing for runners those who have them for sale..... compguy209@hotmail.com

its a steel flange so im pretty sure i need steel runners....unless you can weld aluminum to steel? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i make this in 6061 AL 1/2 thick...... steel aint gona do you any good. that was a waste of money

 

the phenolic gasket will definitely make a difference with heat transfer into the manifold from the head, but steel is gonna make the whole thing really heavy compared to aluminum and the hondata gasket won't make a lick of difference to the ambient air around the intake runners.

i make all my own flanges and do all my own welding. those weber runners are tig'd not mig'd. i haven't started making im mani flanges with the bosses. i don't intend to. they are kinda a pain to make- without the bosses is no problem though i can make those all day long. i will however be making complete manifolds hopefully by the end of the summer based loosly on the prototype below that i built. instead of the "box" pleunum i plan on going with a sheet aluminum contoured plenum instead. i also plan on doing some dyno testing before i start making them available.

 

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No gasket will sheild 100% of heat from the head, unless its magic. The heat transfer of aluminum is hugely greater than that of steel. Steel retains heat for MUCH longer periods of time. Ill go with what all the bigname companies have already R&D from the 1960's.

Rich

 

make your own runners!!! all u need is 1 1/2" piping and to get the oval shape pipe use a vice.

this is what i did

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1144101

 

this is my flange and runners





this is a set i made for DanishR

 

I want to do a busa setup. Busa TB are hard to find though

 

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since when&gt;? when i ordered mine off ebay there was 3 other sets for sale also

 

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this is a set i made for DanishR</TD></TR></TABLE>

email sent...that basicly what i want except without the stepped up tube at the end welded on...i want one straight runner that mates up with the itb...one straight flush tube no step up tube welded on the end...that just looks bad

 

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i make this in 6061 AL 1/2 thick...... steel aint gona do you any good. that was a waste of money</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why is it a waste ? A steel flange with a heat gasket will be fine, the only reason you would want aluminum is if your gonna weld the itb's which I would not do anyways, because there so thin. You could well on steel runners on a steel intake flange, then use header wrap to insulate them.

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No gasket will sheild 100% of heat from the head, unless its magic. The heat transfer of aluminum is hugely greater than that of steel. Steel retains heat for MUCH longer periods of time. Ill go with what all the bigname companies have already R&D from the 1960's.

Rich</TD></TR></TABLE>

True but you can make steel be just as cool. If you wanted to you could ceramic the inside, they do this a lot on motorcycle exhaust piping, the pipe is cool to the touch 2 seconds after the engine is shut off. Yes big name companies use aluminum but when is the last time you have seeb big name companies weld itb's together like this, they cast the aluminum first.

 

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Why is it a waste ? A steel flange with a heat gasket will be fine, the only reason you would want aluminum is if your gonna weld the itb's which I would not do anyways, because there so thin. You could well on steel runners on a steel intake flange, then use header wrap to insulate them.

True but you can make steel be just as cool. If you wanted to you could ceramic the inside, they do this a lot on motorcycle exhaust piping, the pipe is cool to the touch 2 seconds after the engine is shut off. Yes big name companies use aluminum but when is the last time you have seeb big name companies weld itb's together like this, they cast the aluminum first.</TD></TR></TABLE>

coating, wrapping, heat shield gaskets, etc, all things that aren't needed with aluminum.

 

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coating, wrapping, heat shield gaskets, etc, all things that aren't needed with aluminum. </TD></TR></TABLE>

word yo. y bother spending all that time and money

 

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word yo. y bother spending all that time and money </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why bother ? Because you don't have a tig machine that can weld aluminum. I got price quotes to weld aluminum like that and they quoted me over $100

 

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Why bother ? Because you don't have a tig machine that can weld aluminum. I got price quotes to weld aluminum like that and they quoted me over $100</TD></TR></TABLE>

you got to pay it if u wan it. 100 aint ****. im sure if he looks around localy he can find a welder that will do it cheap

 

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you got to pay it if u wan it. 100 aint ****. im sure if he looks around localy he can find a welder that will do it cheap</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont respond to emails?

 

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dont respond to emails?</TD></TR></TABLE>


im sorry you never emailed me....... bmybmobile@yahoo.com thats my email