im about to do all motor NON VTEC LS .. what are the capiablities of this motor.. this is going into a HF CRX.. lookin to get into the 12's just for now.. can some of you gimme some good setups. i wanna reach about 180 whp with a stock bore and stroke.. i wanna see some vids of this if anyone has them! holller

 

180whp is cake...you should shoot for something higher 200+ whp

 

man your in the exact situation i am im building an ls b18a and its going into a 89crx si message me and we can talk and i think you should bore to like .5mm oversize

 

hey what are you shooting for?

 

do you have a sn? for aim or something

 

who me im shooting for 180+whp

heres my setup so far theres more to come before i finish and i think im forgetting a few things to

b18a1 ls
crower 404 cams
ported and polished head(pro done)
7deg valve job
head mill .40
shotpeened rods
arp rod bolts
ard head studs
81.5mm p30 pistons
js racing short ram intake
dc 4-1 ceramic header
aem power pulleys
aem 5 bolt cam gears
uberdata ecu tune
accel 290cc injectors
str block guard
unorthodox racing crank pulley
msd blaster 2 coil and adapter towers(yes i converted to external coil cap)
nology hotwires and silverstone spark plugs
mandrel bent 2 1/4 inch exhaut with hayame muffler and magnaflow cat
aem fuel rail
b&m fuel pressure regulator
70mm throttle body
port matched intake manifold
it has an act 6puck clutch disc
and ys1 lsd cable tranny


things i just remembered
total seal rings
balanced and blueprinted bottom end
hondata intake manifold gasket
copper seal header gasket
flat faced crower valves
crower valve springs and retainers

 

sounds like a pretty solid build....i think you can prob break 200whp

 

lg r32 you got a sn?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who me im shooting for 180+whp

heres my setup so far theres more to come before i finish and i think im forgetting a few things to

b18a1 ls
crower 404 cams
ported and polished head(pro done)
7deg valve job
head mill .40
shotpeened rods
arp rod bolts
ard head studs
81.5mm p30 pistons
js racing short ram intake
dc 4-1 ceramic header
aem power pulleys
aem 5 bolt cam gears
uberdata ecu tune
accel 290cc injectors
str block guard
unorthodox racing crank pulley
msd blaster 2 coil and adapter towers(yes i converted to external coil cap)
nology hotwires and silverstone spark plugs
mandrel bent 2 1/4 inch exhaut with hayame muffler and magnaflow cat
aem fuel rail
b&m fuel pressure regulator
70mm throttle body
port matched intake manifold
it has an act 6puck clutch disc
and ys1 lsd cable tranny


things i just remembered
total seal rings
balanced and blueprinted bottom end
hondata intake manifold gasket
copper seal header gasket
flat faced crower valves
crower valve springs and retainers</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hopefully you're not planning on using LS pistons.

 

Click on the link in my sig for my setup. You can make 170-180whp pretty easy and for real cheap. To achieve 200 whp though is a little harder unless you up your displacement and doing some headwork.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hopefully you're not planning on using LS pistons. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i hope he's not...im sure he just forgot that in his list.....

 

he's using 81.5mm p30 pistons.. lol what kind of pistons should i run.. im looking for pr3 or p30's i dont want pct's

 

the pistons are listed up there fellas im running p30

 

this may sound stupid but whats an sn

 

dude just go vtec. its more fun.

 

non vtec is way more fun.the power is there all the time and they make real good torque

do you know what its like to have power before 5600rpm?

 

honestly in my opinion if you going to go with an LS build it up and then go turbo unless you going vtec theres no point to use an LS.. Stroking it out and doing alot of head work is good but alot of $$$ goes into that build it for a turbo setup

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acurateggy93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly in my opinion if you going to go with an LS build it up and then go turbo unless you going vtec theres no point to use an LS.. Stroking it out and doing alot of head work is good but alot of $$$ goes into that build it for a turbo setup</TD></TR></TABLE>


man it doesnt cost that much look above at the list of my setup.

it will make 180whp witout a prob would you agree?

now guess how much it all cost me i guarntee you its less than a turbo kit

oh and just to let ya know it was under 5000 canadian dollars wich is around 3000us

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you know what its like to have power before 5600rpm?</TD></TR></TABLE>

your trying to say an lsvtec doesnt make the same low-end power an ls makes....?

 

I was going to do non-vtec, but I got ripped off by some **** on my cams, so I dont know now. If anyone needs a 404 ex cam, let me know.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

your trying to say an lsvtec doesnt make the same low-end power an ls makes....?</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes ive driven plenty of vtec engines none are all that thrilling in lower rpm ive driven a few b20 vtecs that were decent

 

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yes ive driven plenty of vtec engines none are all that thrilling in lower rpm ive driven a few b20 vtecs that were decent </TD></TR></TABLE>

ill agree if your talking about a b16 or gsr. but its just not true with an lsvtec or b20vtec(like you said)

tell me how the vtec head, before it is in vtec, hurts the performance of an lsvtec?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ill agree if your talking about a b16 or gsr. but its just not true with an lsvtec or b20vtec(like you said)

tell me how the vtec head, before it is in vtec, hurts the performance of an lsvtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>


well it wont hurt the performance on a non vtec bolck but b16 and gsrs and torqless wonders that are gutless until high rpm

 

for the guy that asked the original question, you might want to think about going with 405's. you can always start with the 404's and then get the 405's after.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it wont hurt the performance on a non vtec bolck but b16 and gsrs and torqless wonders that are gutless until high rpm</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you agree with me.

rendering this statement;

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you know what its like to have power before 5600rpm?</TD></TR></TABLE>

untrue.

which is is my point. if you want to build a non-vtec motor for whatever reason, that is fine. but dont tell this guy that a non-vtec motor has more power than all vtec motors in the lower rmp range.