Hondata style intake manifold heat shield/gasket.

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Anyone have suggestions on what type of plastic they're using in their intake manifold heat shield gaskets dealies. Ive got one on my ep3 and would like to make one for my e30 BMW and dont really know much about plastics.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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I would probably do a nylon like 6/6 or acetal or delrin.. One of those should work.. You can also search the net and find out more about each type!
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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The place that did mine on the Eclipse uses Delrin.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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why not go ahead and get yourself a real sheet of phenolic resin?
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Good call, Ill looke for some phenolic resin sheets...or delriin if i cant find the other stuff.

Thanks.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I cut Phenolic all the time.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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im sure Nayhow MFG could make you one, or anyone who makes **** like that lol....just send them your stock gasket.....gl
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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Could someone give me some more details of these plastics. Thickness and any codes that may exist. Trying to source some materials here in the UK but did'nt relise there would be so many variations..

What would be the best material out the one's listed above.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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phenolic is supposed to be better for not allowing heat transfer into your intake manifold- that is what i would use. delrin is like nylon kinda, but is has a much better wear resistance (bushings) and is much nicer to machine.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Just got a price for a sheel of the Phenolic Plastic and also managed to borrow a brand new Hondata Heatshield for B16 so gonna give it a bash..Thanks Bud.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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Right, Follow up time:

Just got back from my local Plastics speciallist. Phonelic plastic (Or AT Least the ones they had) would in MHO be too had to get a good seal around the IM. The Hondata Gasket I took is made from something called P.E. (Poly Ehterlene)
The stuff I came away with is called P.T.F.E. ( PolyTetraFluoroEthylene), Industry standard, heat & Chemical resistant. More expensive than the Phenolic stuff but seems more up to the job. Details of this can be found here: http://www.boedeker.com/ptfe_p.htm

Gonna make one in a while and will post the results..

Regards

Chris
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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PTFE is teflon, and i have never herd about it being used for anything dealing with blocking heat. Hope it turns out for you though.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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You can get phenolic resin sheets from McMasters. I got mine there when I made some for the D series motors.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Hey Tony, you got any more of those gaskets u made?
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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This Phenolic Resin stuff is the brown hard sheets yer, cos I thought that would be too hard to effectively make a gasket. The stuff I have (P.T.F.E.) seems more upto the job. Anyone got any pictures of one of the phenolic gaskets that have been made by someone on here..

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicDisturbance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right, Follow up time:

Just got back from my local Plastics speciallist. Phonelic plastic (Or AT Least the ones they had) would in MHO be too had to get a good seal around the IM. The Hondata Gasket I took is made from something called P.E. (Poly Ehterlene)
The stuff I came away with is called P.T.F.E. ( PolyTetraFluoroEthylene), Industry standard, heat & Chemical resistant. More expensive than the Phenolic stuff but seems more up to the job. Details of this can be found here: http://www.boedeker.com/ptfe_p.htm

Gonna make one in a while and will post the results..

Regards

Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which type of the ptfe did you use and how well did it work?? Cost?? Anyone ever use grafoil (maybe sandwiched between two oem gaskets) or garlock??
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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I had a hondata heat shield gasket fail on me. It only took 6 months, about 5000 miles. The whole gasket started warping, and eventually the coolant passage way had expanded so much it was below the intake manifold and just started pouring water out. When i took the manifold off, the gasket was warped around every port. Whatever material they used, defintly did not hold up.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicDisturbance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This Phenolic Resin stuff is the brown hard sheets yer, cos I thought that would be too hard to effectively make a gasket. The stuff I have (P.T.F.E.) seems more upto the job. Anyone got any pictures of one of the phenolic gaskets that have been made by someone on here..

Regards

Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

teflon is a decent insulator, phenolic is much better. http://www.outlawengineering.com makes phenolic spacers but supplies gaskets for both sides for a good seal - rtv silicone is always an option too
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">teflon is a decent insulator, phenolic is much better. http://www.outlawengineering.com makes phenolic spacers but supplies gaskets for both sides for a good seal - rtv silicone is always an option too</TD></TR></TABLE>

old thread bump. i was going to get them custom made for like almost $200 locally and not have them done for like 2 weeks or more since they were busy.

i've been looking for this kit for my JRSC kit. thanks alot man
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Same here with the gasket though mine lasted for 40k mi. Can't complain. I still don't like taking off the intake mani. What a pain
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