I was thinking about purchasing the S2S2 camshafts and doing all other necessary upgrades for that - but i need to increase the rev limiter obviously - what can i used to do so? Hondata isn't an option - and i don't want to go the expensive route of getting an AEM EMS....well atleast not until i put the turbo kit on. My goal is to go all motor at first, then throw a turbo on. I already have the turbo kit at home, but I'll wait until i build my motor first.

 

Why would the rev limiter need to be increased?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lude_behavior &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would the rev limiter need to be increased?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm guessing to use the full powerband of the cams.

All motor is different from turbo though. Don't spend money on cams for NA, pistons for NA, etc. when you'll have to redo everything for FI.

 

if you are wanting to increase the rev limit, you should look at putting in the springs and retainers

 

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This guy doesn't know what he wants. Raising the rev limiter for no reason, building an all motor engine to go FI later. Are you kidding me??

Damn, no wonder so many people make fun of Honda guys. Yo...I want to raise mah limitah fo mo VTAK...yO.

 

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This guy doesn't know what he wants. Raising the rev limiter for no reason, building an all motor engine to go FI later. Are you kidding me??

Damn, no wonder so many people make fun of Honda guys. Yo...I want to raise mah limitah fo mo VTAK...yO. </TD></TR></TABLE>Whoa whoa whoa - wait a ******* minute - don't come on this ******* forum and post your ******* negative comments - if you don't have anything constructive to say - don't say it at all you ******* ****** - Like i said - i'm going all motor right now you deaf bitch - i won't put my ******* turbo kit on until a year or two later - it's a project car you ****** - its nothing i'm just going to do right away - i'm wanting to change the rev limiter to get the full power of the cams - you ****** idiot - if you look in the classifides, you'll see that i'm trying to sell my turbo kit you dumb ***** - you don't deserve to be on this forum - who are you to try to tell me what i want anyway - get a life or better yet, get a girl so you can make yourself feel like a man - to your mother

sorry all - its 4:30am i'm tired -

 

Sorry mods - something just exploded - but i'm "level" now - back to earth

Anway - no one has even posted anything that has helped me - what kind of forum is this?

I'll rephrase my question :

I want to increase the rev limiter because i'm thinking about getting the SKunk2 Stage II camshafts - and yes - all valvetrain requirements - this is just an addition i want to do to my N/A setup - how can I increase the rev limiter without going the expensive route i.e AEM EMS - Has anyone ever used the E-Manage?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJBurks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoa whoa whoa - wait a ******* minute - don't come on this ******* forum and post your ******* negative comments - if you don't have anything constructive to say - don't say it at all you ******* ****** - Like i said - i'm going all motor right now you deaf bitch - i won't put my ******* turbo kit on until a year or two later - it's a project car you ****** - its nothing i'm just going to do right away - i'm wanting to change the rev limiter to get the full power of the cams - you ****** idiot - if you look in the classifides, you'll see that i'm trying to sell my turbo kit you dumb ***** - you don't deserve to be on this forum - who are you to try to tell me what i want anyway - get a life or better yet, get a girl so you can make yourself feel like a man - to your mother

sorry all - its 4:30am i'm tired - </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think he meant that going from NA to FI is just dumb.

NA=higher compression wanted.

FI=lower compression wanted.

that is new piston and rods. your going to need new cams. what about the headers and intake and other things. imo, decide what you want to do before you go and spend all of this money.

if you wanted both, you should just buy another car.

 

Well - like i said, i won't go FI until two years later - its a project car - right now, i'm buying my parts - I know everything i need - i'm not stupid, I was just asking a simple question and it is yet to be answered - I know exactly what i want to do - and who are you people to say that going from N/A to FI is stupid? That's how people learn - you can't learn the full aspects of Hondas while sticking to FI or N/A you have to have both - It's not my everyday car, It's just my toy to play with...no one said anything about spending money - I'm just gathering knowledge for my N/A setup - unlike everyone else, i have a plan

 

To answer your question in a civil manner-you won't do it without some very serious changes. The OBD-2 ECU is not tolerant of direct change. Yes there are ways to reprogram the chip to set new values. However, what others have said is the general way to bypass this method. Will a different management system do what you want-increase the rev limit-probably. Then you face the question of fuel maps and other engine related control functions. It is not a simple plug-in device and drive situation; the dyno is your friend for such projects.
I gather that you have researched the curves for the S2S2 cams and valvetrain components and know the ideal cutoff point. The powerband is what you try to stay inside of and generally in the middle of it for the most part.

If this is a project then go for a full reliable NA build of the motor. If you really intend to FI it later the cost will be very high as noted by others. THis may not be a concern to you. However, you should carefully consider the options and value of each project. Building 2 motors might be even more educational.

Happy Luding

Our 99 Base is in the Classifieds-unmolested underhood

 

Im not trying to draw a flame fest, but you shouldnt flame ANDYD, who has been on this board for 3 years and still has 100% points. He was just confused on why you would say that you are going all motor to go F/I a little later.

 

I don't care how long he's been on this forum - he came towards me the wrong way - basically calling me ignorant - didn't appreciate it - he was trying to insult another member of the forum, and i hate that.

Is the Greddy E-Manage really capable of a lot of tuning? As compared to the Hondata....?

 

first off people do not go research the thread creator when answering a question, how are we supposed to know you are selling your turbo kit in the classifieds??? all u said is that u are going FI later on and for now you wanna go NA w/ cams and valvetrain which to anyone not know its a "project car" sounds like a stupid idea as its a major waste of time and money

otherwise...

if u are getting cams, cheaping out and going with the emanage is going to result in lower than potential gains, if you are going to do it then go with hondata at least which will let you adjust the rev limiter, there isnt much info but uberdata is another option along with aem ems, as far as i know vafc and emanage will not let u adjust rev limiter, only other option is a cheap chip but thats just **** things over with cams and possibly pistons, etc...just go hondata and make the engine obdI which can still be used when/if you go boost later on

 

Hondata doesn't support the p13 ecu -or can i chahnge it to a p28 or something? You're the first to atempt to nswer tte qquestion......

No one on this forum has the right to say what I"M DOING is stupid - that's why its my money and my vehicle......&lt;--yeah...thats right

 

you can use a p28 w/ hondata

 

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No one on this forum has the right to say what I"M DOING is stupid - that's why its my money and my vehicle......&lt;--yeah...thats right</TD></TR></TABLE>

no hondata does not support the p13, u would use a p28/p72, p28 is cheaper and is basically the same cept u have to mod it a little to run iab's

and we have every right to call u or something u are doing stupid if u do not tell us everything before hand (anyone spending $1-2k to go na just to boost a year later is stupid in my and many peoples opinions...), whether or not you accept it is your own decision, btw everything you are asking has been covered numerous times if you search/look at the faqs and actually read them

 

What ever - i've done my searches - don't worry about what the **** I am going to do - if you REREAD the ******* posts...it says that my turbo kit is FOR SALE - you ****** can't read worth a damn

Mods lock this please - everyones wasting their time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJBurks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What ever - i've done my searches - don't worry about what the **** I am going to do - if you REREAD the ******* posts...it says that my turbo kit is FOR SALE - you ****** can't read worth a damn

Mods lock this please - everyones wasting their time </TD></TR></TABLE>


This dude keeps PM'ing me calling me a ******. HAHAHAHA This shyt is so funny!!

 

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This dude keeps PM'ing me calling me a ******. HAHAHAHA This shyt is so funny!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

post it post it!!! i need some sig material...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJBurks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What ever - i've done my searches - don't worry about what the **** I am going to do - if you REREAD the ******* posts...it says that my turbo kit is FOR SALE - you ****** can't read worth a damn

Mods lock this please - everyones wasting their time </TD></TR></TABLE>

everyone was bashing you because in your original post you said you were going n/a and then boosting a year later, nowhere does it say anything about anything for sale in classifieds until after the flaming started....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJBurks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was thinking about purchasing the S2S2 camshafts and doing all other necessary upgrades for that - but i need to increase the rev limiter obviously - what can i used to do so? Hondata isn't an option - and i don't want to go the expensive route of getting an AEM EMS....well atleast not until i put the turbo kit on. My goal is to go all motor at first, then throw a turbo on. I already have the turbo kit at home, but I'll wait until i build my motor first.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i do not see anything about any turbo kit being sold....notice the bold...yeah way to cover your *** a few posts later but end up looking like a dick, ur questions are answered, u dont seem to know much about it if you dont even know how to raise the rev limiter (which with s2s2 cams it wont make enough of a difference anyways to warrant the potential risk of ruining the engine)