i have always wondered since all the traction bars have all the sperical rod ends, and heim joints, then which way do they stop axle travel and wheel hop?

do they stop it from moving in a circular motion paralell to the ground?

i mean it seems that and up and down would be out of the question because of the design.

or is it the tension on the suspension being pulled forward?


help a brutha out

 

cmon suspension guys, lets go

 

no one knows...

 

The traction bars are tighed directly to the front lower control arms.... When vehicle accelerates the wheel doesn't automatically grip the pavement, instead it tends to skip over the pavement a bit till it grabs enough to completely go. What the bars do is push the control arms back as to prevent that up and down motion of the control arms during acceleration. I should know, I have a L-con traction bar...works great!

 

what im dealig with is my car is an upper 300hp car and runs mid 11s and i do not use the traction bar thing, all my friends do and cut lower 60fts then them....1.61s

i have no wheel hop from all the video i have watched of my car, have i been blessed or something???

i mean to me it seems with the spherical rod end on the front near the crossmember, it would allow it to still travel up and down, i mean what is limiting it other than lateral tension??? so far from what i see NOTHING.

i could see if it were like a RWD style that let the axle roll over to a designated point and then was pinned but these things dont seem to make sense to me

 

Are you for real about the spherical bearings?

Yeah there rubbish, use solid bolt on types for optimal 'binding', will help traction loads, then while your busy making the suspension not move replace the springs with hollow cylinders of finest English Oak.... killa lauching y0!

The front toe angle changes due to the reaction forces imposed to the suspension bushes due to the grip generated by the tyre. By using traction bars you effectively remove 95% of the compliance of the bushes in lateral loading and hence they suspension geometry hardly changes under power. You can therefore optimise the toe angles for lauuch along with camber (with camber kit) to get as much tyre contact during launch.

The elastic nature of the bushes also helps wheel hop, so taking out the elasticity with bars helps no end.

 

Nothing to do with TOE/CAMBER.... It is to stop the forward and rearward movement of the front suspension known as "CASTER" .
When you try to launch and the tires go to grip, the front suspension will move toward the rear at the lowest point (bottom of tire that is trying to grip) causing -caster. The traction bar locks the supension in an almost unchangeable caster position. I say almost because in the suspension travel it is inevitable in its design that it will effect those settings, but not by much.
The spherical bearings are there to give the caster movement solidity, while still allowing smooth travel in the up and down department. I hope this clears things up for you.

 

yeah clears it up a little, now im partly cloudy instead of muddy!

if they are to stop lateral mothing then why do we all say it elimintaes wheel hop as if it actually stops the up and down motion?

i mean if you can somewhat reduce the movement laterally thus stopping the wheel from gettng into position to move upward then i guess it seems helpful.

i dont know, they just seem like a lot of money for something im not really sure if i need

 

Everyone just assumes that wheel "hop" is implying a vertical motion, when in actuality(sp.) it is more like a forward snap. The wheel will grip and put forward momentum and the top of the suspension along with the car move forward while the contact patch stays stationary. Now instead of holding solid and spinning the tire smootly at the same speed as the rest of the vehicle, it will try to hop in the process of catching up.

strut on stand still> I
strut on initial grip> \
during the hop > I

I hope this makes some sense, now my head hurts, I suck at explaining stuff with words.

 

thanks,no it actually does make some sense, it is kinda how i thought it would work, i just wanted to clear up some other stuff out there about them for reassurance, and yeah i hate words too!