ive decided that NA is best! i am thinking about porting and polishing and sleeving as well as ITB's for my b16. what do you all think? any suggestions will help greatly.

 

port and polish is nice, valve springs, retainers, etc. If you're going to do serious work, bore it out to 1.7 liter, 11:5.1 pistons, ITB's are great, have fun. Lots of work and definitely $$$$$$$$$

 

Cams, valve train, pistons, ITBs + lots of tuning =

 

all of the above + thinner head gasket + maybe 1.8 instead of 1.7
and since you're gonna want to do a lot of dyno tuning to maximize your NA power, you need to have as many adjustable things for your motor. i.e. fuel pressure regulator, adj. cam gears, etc. tuning is everything.

EDIT: oh! + maybe a clutch, flywheel, an aftermarket LSD ( ). And if you have money to burn you can just get the Spoon close-ratio gears.

 

are ITB's legal in cali?

 

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legal like how? emissions?

Either way, our CA cops will try to bust any Honda with any modification to its intake WHATSOEVER.

 

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i've decided you are an idiot who likes to make less horsepower with more money

 

emission wise. i get tickets for legal **** on my car so i know a cop will write me up if he sees something thats not stock

 

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I have the same car don't dump a ton of money into sleeving and boring and aftermarket pistons. Get yourself a type r block and a good header and you will drop a ton of time on the 1/4. A different trainey will be helpfull to because the trans in the si sucks real shitty final drive.

 

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what are u talking about? its one of the best tranny for b series for the money but i would get an itr

 

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i've decided you are an idiot who likes to make less horsepower with more money </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or maybe he just doesn't want to throw a turbo on a stock block and blow his **** up like ricers do

 

Are you kidding the final drive in the civic si trans sucks. But I definately agree na is the only way

 

I think you have some big dreams. Take one step at a time.

 

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... and blow his **** up like ricers do </TD></TR></TABLE>

so he's a ricer?!?

 

N/A cars are fun if they are tuned perfectly but you could never EVER EVER have as much fun or power in an N/A car as you would in a turbo<FONT SIZE="20">.</FONT> &lt;--period End of story. And this goes double for a torquless b16

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Agreed x10000000000000000000000000000000000

 

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dunno, it's listed in the Helms as a 4.266 but people have opened up those trannies to physically look at the final drive and found them to actually be a 4.4 just like the 96-97 ITR tranny. The only improvement over the 4.4 is the S80 tranny in the 98 ITR which was 4.785.

 

no, but it's fun

 

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so WHAT if I'm a ricer!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

fixed

 

thats fine but anyone can throw a tubo on and have instant horsepower.dont get me wrong turbo kicks ***...but i like all motor...just that much better when you beat a turbo car when your all motor

 

Hope you been saving for a while

 

People also need to realize that their car can only handle so much. A civic chassis, for example, needs serious reinforcements to handle 300hp+ so for those that want a turbo to make 500hp! it's useless. All motor 220-240whp is good enough, and if you really want to get crazy, K20 All motor 300hp

 

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The k20 is a better platform for a turbo set up.

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Anyone can slap on high comp pistions and bore out a b16 and have more power too. No matter what path you choose, it takes lots of money and building to get a great car. Turbo's have to be tunned just as much as NA cars do.

Oh and it's even better when you smoke some **** blocker in a mustang GT with his GF next to him with a little 4 banner.

 

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Oh and it's even better when you smoke some **** blocker in a mustang GT with his GF next to him with a little 4 banner. </TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed

 

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agreed </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea but it sucks when you get all big headed and get outran because he is running a **** load of nitrous.