i purchased an auto JDM b16a longblock a while ago and i was wondering if the auto cams were any different compared to the manual cams..? if so, which is better?

 

Not positive but i believe they are the same.

 

they should be the same

 

come on guys i know someone has the right answer here...im asking this question because my motor seems to be lagging in first gear until vtec kicks in...so im wondering if the cams will be the difference

 

Which ecu are you using? The gearing may be different for an automatic tranny. Idk, though. Bump for you.

 

In fact, take a look at email a guy received in this thread:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1174631

 

The reason why its lagging is because you have a b16. Really. they are slow unless turbo

 

did you search this? there's been plenty of discussion about it in the past.

some think they're the same and some swear they're different.

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either that or cause its an automatic

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkk

 

lol, same cams, make sure you're using a manual ecu... if you're comparing it to a gsr or type r though... it just doesn't kick in that hard. If you want it to, get some cams and tune your car. I have skunk2 stage 2's that'll kick as hard as anything else; if you're interested, PM me.

 

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Cams wouldn't cause that.

 

You tell me what motor with 160 ponies and as much tq as a single makes power. Lets be serious now i have had two b16's not worth it in my opiion no tq. Its hard to be sarcastic over the internet

 

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It is a Honda DooD

 

auto and 5sp cams are different, auto of course being weaker.

 

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Well I guess I'm slow than...lol. Hence my screen name. heheh

 

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where is your proof here? and why do you say "of course"...

with the additional drivetrain loss through an automatic transmission would not it be possible for the automatic cam to be slightly more aggressive to make up for it?

i'm not saying this is the case, just that your post is as educated as me saying my farts and your farts are different, your farts of course being weaker. but i can't prove that to you without letting one rip in your face...

 

don't auto B16 use single valve springs on the intake and exhuast side, while manual B16s have dual springs on the intake side and single on the exhuast, this might indicate a more aggressive intake cam, but I don't for sure

 

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well b16a's are torqueless wonders, stock. As you say it doesn't pull untill vtec kicks in. It would make a difference if you had a 1st gen vs a 2nd gen. If you have the 1st gen then at least switch to a 2 nd gen b16a cam or itr/ctr cams. That would at least wake up the engine alittle more. My b16a make 162 hp and 109 tq. 109 tq now thats gutless.

 

No cams r cams, it doesn't matter if the trans is auto or manual.

 

and that peak tq number doesn't apply until near 7krpms; i'd hate to see the 3-4krpm tq numbers.

having auto gearing on there would make it that much worse for him

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torque@4000 rpms is just around 71. lol my peak was aroun 6500

 

I know for a fact that manual B16 cams are more aggresive than automatic B16 cams....I have held both side by side and it is clearly visible.

 

what a pro... lol

 

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im using a p61 chipped...anyone has the duration and lift numbers for these cams..?