anyone know how much the cheapest mandrel bender runs for?


thanks

 

New mandrel benders start out at around $50,000. If you look around you can find used Pine's for $25,000 or so. Those prices are for a smaller bender though, prices go up from there depending on what you need the machine to bend.

 

and don't forget that a set of dies is required for each tube/pipe size.

Dies can run $1500 or more a set.

Unless you are going to run the bender for about 6-8hrs a day, or hire somebody to do it, you won't be able to financially justify the purchase of one. The reason there's so many places selling the bends is because they are so expensive machines...and the company has to use them practically nonstop to make it pay for itself.

 

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Dies can run $1500 or more a set.

Unless you are going to run the bender for about 6-8hrs a day, or hire somebody to do it, you won't be able to financially justify the purchase of one. The reason there's so many places selling the bends is because they are so expensive machines...and the company has to use them practically nonstop to make it pay for itself.</TD></TR></TABLE>


kinda like a dyno?

 

Dies cost more like 4-6k per set UNDER 3". If they were $1500/set... I'd have every die set imagineable.

 

thanks for the info guys

the city i live in is pretty large and there isnt one single place with one

 

I know someone who was selling a mandrel/pipe bender with a die set of 1-2" for like, $89.00.

 

I'll take it for $89.

 

I am guessing these quoted prices are for CNC Mandrel benders? There are manual/hydraulic ones that are much cheaper.

 

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Your friend may have a PIPE bender for that much, but you can buy them new at harbor Freight for that. We're talking MANDREL!!!!

You WILL NOT find a mandrel bender for $89! If you did, I would want 10 of them.

People don't know the difference in mandrel benders, crush, and rotary draw benders...and therefore, people think they can get a mandrel bender cheap. However, it is not true.


If you want a bender for roll cages, rotary draw will be fine. If you want it to do intake or exhaust piping, you need a mandrel bender....well, you need to just buy the bends. As mentioned above, getting a mandrel bender for your personal use is like getting a dyno just to tune your car. In the end, you'd have to run that dyno every day to make it pay for itself....same as a mandrel bender.


People, please....learn what a mandrel bender is!!

 

Exactly, people don't know the differences between benders and types of bends. I blame some of the ignorance on the false information a lot of shops give out. I know of several people who were told by the shops that fabricated their exhausts that they used mandrel bends, but in reality, it was nothing more than standard exhaust shop crush bends.

On a related note, a friend of mine did buy a dyno mostly because he wanted to tune his car. A local dyno shop wouldn't cut him a break on 10 hour blocks of time, so he ended up getting his own dyno and opening his own shop.

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Your friend may have a PIPE bender for that much, but you can buy them new at harbor Freight for that. We're talking MANDREL!!!!

You WILL NOT find a mandrel bender for $89! If you did, I would want 10 of them.

People don't know the difference in mandrel benders, crush, and rotary draw benders...and therefore, people think they can get a mandrel bender cheap. However, it is not true.


If you want a bender for roll cages, rotary draw will be fine. If you want it to do intake or exhaust piping, you need a mandrel bender....well, you need to just buy the bends. As mentioned above, getting a mandrel bender for your personal use is like getting a dyno just to tune your car. In the end, you'd have to run that dyno every day to make it pay for itself....same as a mandrel bender.


People, please....learn what a mandrel bender is!!
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You just need a draw bender with a ball mandrel. How hard is that?

The basic setup clamps a length of pipe, and rolls it through a die while pulling through a ball mandrel. You can't bend pipes longer than 24" or so, but you can still make repeatable u-bends.

 

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The basic setup clamps a length of pipe, and rolls it through a die while pulling through a ball mandrel. You can't bend pipes longer than 24" or so, but you can still make repeatable u-bends.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Find it at a cost that is affordable...and you will have done a lot more than blow smoke.

 

WTF is a draw bend? how is it different than mandrel bent?

 

draw-back type bend is a mandrel tube bender, it uses the bend die to draw back and the pressure die against the wiper die to go foward allowing for the tube to draw back while creating a bend from tangent. It's a great way of doing mandrel bends, but setting the tube bender to specifications to not allow wrinkling, slipping, and accidently breaking off the mandrel bend ***** are a pain!, btw I work as a tube bender for the aerospace industry, using .030 CPTI (titanium), bending thin walls are not fun

 

I don't know what you're doing with it.

If you are building cages , or manifolds, or need 2" diameter and under, then you want this: http://www.jd2.com/

It's the JD2 Model 3

Only problem is a 180* Die for most sizes will run you another $300. It's the absolute best bender for the money though.

Dont mess with any of those press-type benders, they kink anything unless you pack it with sand first.

 

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I have to disagree...these benders aren't worth **** for making manifolds, You can't get tight bends close to each other, as you need in manifolds. Therefore, you need bends that keep a constant "roundness" throughout the bend. That way you can cut and weld them together easily. The JD2 is a rotary draw bender and will not keep a constant diameter throughout the bend. It is therefore only good for structural things or items that do not require cuts and welds on the bends.