not impressed by the h22 in my 97 accord 2dr coupe
what should i expect from this engine???????? light flywheel, racing clutch,dc headers,,,not sure what i think about it, maybe i thought i would feel a big difference, when i get my vtec popping maybe ill feel a difference.
You should feel a huge difference with the h22 in it but if the vtec doesnt kick in the engine isnt doing all that its capable of ive also heard a lot of people that preludes dont have **** until third gear
first of all, are you in limp mode (is your cel on)? if so, that'll make a difference...also, just the fact that you don't have your vtec system working means that you aren't getting everything out of your motor...get vtec working and see if that "impresses" you...
h22 on an accord has a big difference compare to the f22....and having vtec kick in will be even better that's if your vtec is actually working. Hook up your vtec and you will know what im talking about!
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just turbo at the moment, 280wtq at 15psi, just got the next b2 in, stock block and head. im just saying for the money, and even for any other reason, f22's are solid motors that love boost. im not trying to start ****, im just saying, no reason to ditch the f in favor of an h that could have bought you a turbo kit and a lot less work with less things to go wrong than if you were to do an entire swap. not saying a swap can be effortless, just saying theres always little **** and the whole pulling the motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f22b2tdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just turbo at the moment, 280wtq at 15psi, just got the next b2 in, stock block and head. im just saying for the money, and even for any other reason, f22's are solid motors that love boost. im not trying to start ****, im just saying, no reason to ditch the f in favor of an h that could have bought you a turbo kit and a lot less work with less things to go wrong than if you were to do an entire swap. not saying a swap can be effortless, just saying theres always little **** and the whole pulling the motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>
swapping in an H will cost as much as a well put together, well tuned turbo kit, and the boosted F WILL make more power...some people however like the little better gas milege youll get, need the reliabilty of the "stock" motor, and love the ability to rev really high w/o worring about spike/creep....its all about personal preference....
ive never been in a swapped accord...or any car with an H for that matter, but i can tell you that some people seem disapointed with the H swap...probably because they were expecting ALOT....if vtec isnt engaging, then the motot isnt making its most available power, and is choking up at the upper RPMs.....def get that fixed, and im sure youll be happy
swapping in an H will cost as much as a well put together, well tuned turbo kit, and the boosted F WILL make more power...some people however like the little better gas milege youll get, need the reliabilty of the "stock" motor, and love the ability to rev really high w/o worring about spike/creep....its all about personal preference....
ive never been in a swapped accord...or any car with an H for that matter, but i can tell you that some people seem disapointed with the H swap...probably because they were expecting ALOT....if vtec isnt engaging, then the motot isnt making its most available power, and is choking up at the upper RPMs.....def get that fixed, and im sure youll be happy
i said stock sleeves, ive beaten 11:1 h22 accords, ill gladly drive halfway to meet you, that would be kansasish...
and i wouldnt be running forged with stock sleeves.....frm owns you
and i wouldnt be running forged with stock sleeves.....frm owns you
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f22b2tdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i said stock sleeves, ive beaten 11:1 h22 accords, ill gladly drive halfway to meet you, that would be kansasish...
and i wouldnt be running forged with stock sleeves.....frm owns you</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bah. comparing a boosted motor to a non boosted is apples and oranges. Boosted H22 will own you all day. Besides that, 2point6 's car is putting down the same numbers you are(more or less) and that with out boost. Try that with an F22b ,Todd.
and i wouldnt be running forged with stock sleeves.....frm owns you</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bah. comparing a boosted motor to a non boosted is apples and oranges. Boosted H22 will own you all day. Besides that, 2point6 's car is putting down the same numbers you are(more or less) and that with out boost. Try that with an F22b ,Todd.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f22b2tdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vtec vtec vtec....pffftt
ill take my $150 complete F22b2 over any h any day.
edit, **** your vtec...oh yeah most pointless edit ever! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i don't remember him asking about a turbo f, just about why his h22 wasn't feeling "powerful"... i really don't see the relevance in your post, other than to just start ****...though, it still does make me laugh anytime someone else talks **** on a web-forum or tries to e-race...setting up races online where you meet halfway is even more pointless... his initial question was about an h22, which he has already swapped in... to go on talking about what he should have done just makes these threads harder to sort through and more and more pointless...oh yea, by the way, i have bigger ***** than both of you...
ill take my $150 complete F22b2 over any h any day.
edit, **** your vtec...oh yeah most pointless edit ever! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i don't remember him asking about a turbo f, just about why his h22 wasn't feeling "powerful"... i really don't see the relevance in your post, other than to just start ****...though, it still does make me laugh anytime someone else talks **** on a web-forum or tries to e-race...setting up races online where you meet halfway is even more pointless... his initial question was about an h22, which he has already swapped in... to go on talking about what he should have done just makes these threads harder to sort through and more and more pointless...oh yea, by the way, i have bigger ***** than both of you...
I had an f22 boosted on 10psi and it wasn't **** compaired to my h22 on 6psi. Don't get me wrong it had a little power but you cant compair the two. The f22 I had was tuned with ems, The h22 is tuned with a vafc, still its like night and day!!
to the first post-- when your vtec kick in thats when you will be glad you did the swap!!
to the first post-- when your vtec kick in thats when you will be glad you did the swap!!
you all jump at any shittalkers, try taking the boards less seriously...its called sarcasm, my motor is blown and i would have loved the reliabilty of a new motor. seriously guys, there is more to life than the internet. you think i was going to drive to ****** kansas to race some kid i met in an h vs f arguement, haha. you kids
edit, yes, nick, my post WAS simply to start ****, i was feeling a bit uppity now that my motor blew and i never leave the house, new one is in, just not done yet, ill be the first to tell all of you i know nothing about cars...honestly, its a fwd turbo import...and i like traction, why did i do this to myself?
edit, two...wait i did have a reason it was to show that i was impressed with just a turbo low low 14's with issues over this guy being not impressed with spending 3k on a 15 second car... and in case you didnt realize vtec has been said nearly 50 goddamn times which would explain my mocking you all and your "vtec."
Modified by f22b2tdave at 7:08 PM 3/8/2005
edit, yes, nick, my post WAS simply to start ****, i was feeling a bit uppity now that my motor blew and i never leave the house, new one is in, just not done yet, ill be the first to tell all of you i know nothing about cars...honestly, its a fwd turbo import...and i like traction, why did i do this to myself?
edit, two...wait i did have a reason it was to show that i was impressed with just a turbo low low 14's with issues over this guy being not impressed with spending 3k on a 15 second car... and in case you didnt realize vtec has been said nearly 50 goddamn times which would explain my mocking you all and your "vtec."
Modified by f22b2tdave at 7:08 PM 3/8/2005
I don't care what people say about how "turbos are awesome as long as you get it tuned properly" I can guarantee you more people have problems with turbos than all motor swaps (assuming the swap is practical like the h22 accord in this case). My friend had two stock preludes before he got his s14 240sx , with all the problems he'd had with it (yes it was tuned properly) he said he'd much rather have the reliability of an all motor h22. I'd gladly pay the extra money to get 250whp all motor (ive seen even more) than simply slap on a turbo and have to worry about an engine that wasn't meant to be turboed in the first place.
f22b2tdave
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Just be quiet. Your wasting everyones time, and I wasted even more time by typing this.
What you are talking about has nothing to do with what the guy wanted answered.
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Just be quiet. Your wasting everyones time, and I wasted even more time by typing this.
What you are talking about has nothing to do with what the guy wanted answered.
I uderstand where your coming from. When you turbo a motor that wasnt ment to be turboed in the first place you have alot more to deal with than just a stock motor. Anyone who just throws a turbo on a motor and gets tuned right is going to run in to problems if they are trying to make real power. That is why you build the motor like it was turbo from the factory, so you dont have problems. These people that you hear about that are having soo many problems is because they are doing it foolishly. Thats just my opinion. I would rather build a 500whp turbo h22 than a 250 n/a.
I agree with you h22turbo...If you are looking to get 500whp then yeah turbo is really the only way to go. I think that if you want something that is going to be your daily driver and top out at 250-300whp with good reliablity and few problems, NA would be a good bet. I was doing the turbo vs. h22 NA in my head a few weeks ago then decided to go NA because my car needs to last me another 4 years w/o alot of problems seeing as im on a low budget.
Sometimes you get bad engines, for example: this kid at my school has a 91 like me only his is riced out and gay but he got a h22 swap along with 5spd. but the funny part is my stock f22a, 5spd, cai, and exhaust will take him like no other. its sad really...







i got the e thumbs down....