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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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I have a 98 DX 2dr that just started grinding 3rd if i get on it. It kinda feels like the clutch may be sticking. Should i try changing the MTF first before buying a new clutch? Any help would be great. THX
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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You could try changing the fluid, but more then likely its your synchros.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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I had the same problem. best thing to do is to go to your gm or chevy dealer and get what is called syncro mesh. its regular tranny oil for them but works wonders on imports. Jon
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reed857 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the same problem. best thing to do is to go to your gm or chevy dealer and get what is called syncro mesh. its regular tranny oil for them but works wonders on imports. Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is good stuff, but it cost about 10 to 15 dollars a quart. Autozone sells this Pennzoil stuff that is almost the same thing for 5 dollars a quart.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Get GM Synchromesh Friction Modified. Got rid of most of my grind. Used to grind right after VTEC at 5,500 RPM. Grinds a little still past 8,000 RPMs after Synchromesh.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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over time the problem only gets worse
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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that is why i got a whole new motor. i was tired of grinding 1st, 2nd, and especially third. it got so bad that i always shifted from 2nd to 4th.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could try changing the fluid, but more then likely its your synchros. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Try new fluid 1st... but if it is ur synchro, nothing but replacing it will help. Might as well replace all of 'em and put in new bearings while u have it torn down.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaoss_11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">over time the problem only gets worse</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wish more people would see that, a lot of people think adding fluid fixes it permanently, all it does it cover up the problem, unless you really have no trans fluid in your tranny. But even then, you might of did some permanent damage.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wish more people would see that, a lot of people think adding fluid fixes it permanently, all it does it cover up the problem, unless you really have no trans fluid in your tranny. But even then, you might of did some permanent damage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well said
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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get teh syncro mesh from the gm or chevy place. you only need to quarts. give it 50 to 100 miles. I didnt notice it stoping until about 75 miles and then 3 or 4 races where I was shifting into thurd at 8700 rpm. And I know that it wont fix the tranny it just preserves it and quiets or stops the noise. if its to far gone it wont do anything, but $20 to fix grinding gears. sign me up all day long. Jon
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Mine does the same thing. I tried GM Syncro mesh and it still grinds. So don't think it will automatically fix it. But it is good fluid. The guy at GM told me it was better than snapple ^_^
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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The other preservation method which you might know - rev matching when you upshift and rev matching w/double clutching when you downshift.

If you want to get serious, find a local tranny guy who does lots of Hondas. The guy who did my engine swap charged me $150 labor, cost for 3/4 & 5/R synchros w/free 1/2 synchros that had 15k on them. I also burn all his chips now, so that could be another reason. That was for an LS tranny, I'm guessing a d-series is much cheaper as far as parts go. Good option if you ever boost.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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hey what do you mean by burn he chips?? if you could email me if you dont mind answering a few questions that I have because I am looking to get into it. thanks Jon
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