In a eg hatchback what would it take to get mid 12's thats my goal. I dunno I would guess around a little over 200whp right?

 

Assuming excellent traction, somewhere around there.

 

nice avatar

 

http://www.wheelspin.net/calc/calc8.html

Rough Estimate. Of course, you have other factors that affect performance such as gearing, driver, weather condition, tires, etc.

 

Around 220whp...

 

http://www.tciauto.com/tech_info/calculators.htm#1

A little one up to that link you posted.

 

If you are just doing it for a timeslip, then you can obviously remove alot of the weight that you might otherwise carry around when you go to the track. A full weight EG will obviously need more.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1150071 That is almost a full interior high 12 not really a crazy setup either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Around 220whp...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Daym, I was hoping to do it with 190, but I'll see what happens...

 

&lt;&lt;&lt;12.602@107 195WHP 130TQ 2160w/driver

 

&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;13.0 at 103 in very poor conditions with a 1.9xx 60ft. 2350-2400lbs with driver.

about 186whp and 132wtq

 

Our hondas usually need a better power to weight ratio than normal to achieve certain times. The FWD, short wheelbase, and relatively low torque to weight ratio make it a bitch to go fast, but i love it anyway.
A good example i have in this road and track:
porsche carrera s: 3300 lbs. 355bhp 1/4 mile: 12.3 @ 114
c6 vette coupe: 3290 lbs. 400bhp 1/4 mile: 12.8 @ 114
ls/vtec hatch: 2050 lbs. 250bhp 1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 104
see the honda has the best power to weight ratio, and the porsche has the worst, but yet it kills the vette and the hatch. This is why our lives as hondaphiles can be tough.


Modified by rjay8604 at 10:11 PM 3/6/2005

 

isnt the carrera T charged though? thats not really a fair comparison.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;&lt;&lt;12.602@107 195WHP 130TQ 2160w/driver</TD></TR></TABLE>thats not your best time lol...........just for an idea on variances mine went 14.5 at the same track with 185whp 155wtq...10hp down 25ft/lbs up.......yeah depends alot on setup and driver(i suck)......................John

 

thats not quite true john. this was when my car was a street car weighing in at around 2160w/driver and i never ran good at renegade. i only ran my DRs at renegade back then. i ran my 12.80 in spokane and my 12.6s came at woodburn both on slicks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isnt the carrera T charged though? thats not really a fair comparison.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, its NA. But anyway, yeah of course its not a fair comparison
I just wanted to show how our hondas are at a severe disadvantage.
Those horspower calculators are good for camaros on slicks, but it said with 2050 lbs. and 255 hp i would hit an 11.7, now i know that won't happen. Maybe it means wheel horspower though, hmm.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjay8604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No, its NA. But anyway, yeah of course its not a fair comparison
I just wanted to show how our hondas are at a severe disadvantage.
Those horspower calculators are good for camaros on slicks, but it said with 2050 lbs. and 255 hp i would hit an 11.7, now i know that won't happen. Maybe it means wheel horspower though, hmm. </TD></TR></TABLE> I used whp with my calculations and it said I should be a 13.6 or so which should be feasable. Hey Dustin wanna drive my car next time i take it to the drags?......

 

didn't someone break into 11s w/ an lsvtec making ~215 whp and ?? tq... all motor on pump gas ... he had a video also

 

id hit ya up on that john but i have issues with H22 trannies and not being able to shift. i used to be a damn pro but since i drive B series all the time i cant shift H22s for ****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaIntegraR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">didn't someone break into 11s w/ an lsvtec making ~215 whp and ?? tq... all motor on pump gas ... he had a video also</TD></TR></TABLE>

Backdraft - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1082748

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id hit ya up on that john but i have issues with H22 trannies and not being able to shift. i used to be a damn pro but since i drive B series all the time i cant shift H22s for ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>I hear ya. My wife has an em1 and i have a heck of a time shifting hers. Have to shift it really fast at redline or the motor shifts back and it feels jerky. The h22 is butta though since I drive it all the time. def number than the b series.

 

get a r motor, gut the interior, slicks, pizza cutters for the back and run it open header. my buddy ran a 12.7xx in his cx with a r motor bone stock on slicks with pizza cutters in the back. http://www.831pits.com has a clip of his white eg. click on car videos and click on 12foreals........

 

uncle ran mid 12's with 215 whp stroked or bored (forgot) b18c(5) + slicks on a 92-95 civic coupe.. ericks racing built motor. still incomplete and he was still learning to drive it... ****** sick *** torque.

good luck it takes $$ and practice

 

I ran 11.73 with 226whp, 1850lbs with driver, slicks. K20-R with ITB's, header and programmable Ecu

 

Hell mysetup is pretty nice but I'll be running like 16's when I get it in the car. But thanx for the new vid links guys.

 

too many variables, narrow it down. full interior, gutted, slicks, street tires, what engine, etc. i think an h22 or b18c5 with bolts should hit that with a half gutted hatch w/ slicks and you cant go wrong, assuming you can drive.