Im thinking of going boost just simply because It gets you more power for the dollar. I just wanna hear some of you all motor junkie's thoughts and reasons for staying n/a

 

uhm...watch some of the videos in the "all motor video thread"

thats all i think you need.

NA>turbl0w

and its more props too!

 

nuff said.

 

damn, what header is that ? That motor looks freaking sick. Dont you think for as much money that was spent on that motor a built and turbo'd motor could be had?

 

 

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1). Respect - Anyone can slap a turbo on something and get it to hold together long enough to make some quick passes.

2). Reliability - Hondas are not designed to see the abuse/stress of boost. Got money to dump into the engine for fuel management, rods, pistons, etc.? Then you might get it to last a year or so longer!

3). Driveability - I dunno about you, but I love the way a good all motor setup sounds and drives. I used to have a boosted 99 Si, so I have had both worlds. I would take the all motor route any day over boost.

All you are going to get when asking someone to "convince" you to go all motor are opinions. Its not going to do any good in most cases either. Most people who come in here saying "convince me to stay all motor" are all ready googlied eyed over the amount of power a boosted setup on 30psi makes and has thier mind made up. It won't be till after you dump the cash, up the boost, and blow it up that you actually look back and think "maybe those guys were right after all!".

 

Thanks for the great replies Im not sure exactly what i want to do. I orginally wanted to go all motor ,but everyone is like why waste the money when u can just boost and be way faster when in actual reality a all motor car running 11's will be way more reliable then a turbo car running 11's am i correct?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1168079

 

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Hahaha, Brad's car will make you think

 

go all motor.....

 

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yup ... boost is for wimps LOL

I have a thread somewhere around with some video footage on a dyno ... car dont sound too mean on the dyno but its different when you actually drive it in the street.

good luck on your decision ... btw, all motor is not always reliable, neither is boosting, after a certain point nothing is usually reliable. I've had all kinds of setups ...

Greg

 

allmotor!!! raw power, respect, a challenge, a little less$, a little more reliable, alot of fun!! 10,000 rpms is a great feeling

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=681755

NA is Best

 

More challenging, lighter, "the way Honda intended it", the sound, revving high, linear power (for the most part, no huge spikes) with excellent response if done right.

Personally for me, all motor is just more interesting. Boost is awesome, no doubt. And engineering-wise the turbocharged engine is "better". But there's something awesome about getting the right combination of parts, squeezing every last bit of power from an engine with minimal bolted on parts (no parts that weren't there originally) and transforming a 145 whp engine into a 250 whp one. I'm less concerned with making big power and 10 second passes than I am with the overall feeling from an all motor car.

 

I love turbos myself(and my car is turboed)....but honda did intend for our cars to be all motor......

 

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All Motor builds typically make more area under the curve in the useful range of a daily-driven vehicle than similarly priced turbocharged applications. Torque is instant and steady; there's no lag of any sort.

Plus, until you've been in a B18C punched over a couple .0x0's with 13.0 : 1 compression and some nasty bumpsticks, you haven't lived, my friend .

 

I threw this together real quick just to take a pic like the one up in this thread..

 

Tbone i was hopin you would post something crazy in here. whats the spec's on that beast

 

Like I said I just placed all that together for the pic..lol Bone stock 99 gsr bottom with my Smsp spec Moroso pan off my crx, my smsp header . My gsr Jenvey itbs (not off my crx) . A used set of broken vitec wires lol and a New distributor king dist.. Oh and my v-cover off the crx.
The gsr is being built for my step brother 94civickid.. Rocket motorsports ported head
Arias pistons coated by yours truly
Eagle rods
Rocket m22x cams
Smsp or Rmf header
skunk intake mani.
hondata
Spoon baffled oil pan
Mugen motor mounts

 

Sound of a turbo is cool and all, but is way too played out! I think the sound of lumpy *** cams is unbeatable!


Also......

Anyone one can bolt on a turbo kit, but how many ppl can actually say they hand built their motor from the bottom up. It takes some skills!

 

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Also......

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anyone with a built turbo motor

 

The thing I like is that I do not have to deal with the massive amounts of heat turbo cars produce. It is nice to be able to go to the track for the day and not worry about overheating here in Florida. BTW that is a picture of my old eclipse in my avatar.

 

I must ask, why do you need convincing? What do you want to do: Turbo or N/A? How much are you willing to spend? How much do you know about what you are working on?

 

look at the #'s on my sig. need i say more!