Mitch Piper's cage... few pix
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I don't think it is either. Rear braces are not legal.
I don't think it is either. Rear braces are not legal.
Are you showing it off or asking if people recommend it? If the latter, Mitch apparently does real nice quality work but unfortunately that design is currently not legal for NASA (and I believe IT as well but I don't recall the end of that debate and it might be determined by your local tech). If you are going to have him do you a cage for racing w/ HC (I presume since that looks like a honda ??), I would have him do the rear legs such that they are | | to the main hoop, not X (or |X|, |/| too would be fine rules-wise). Just my understanding - if you are just showing off some picture you found - cool. Nice pics!
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hello know-it-all's, did i ask if the cage was legal? no i didn't. but since u guys know so much... maybe you can answer this, why so many rr/ax ppl like to answer questions that ppl did not ask? maybe they can read into other's minds? predictive answers???
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Ummm, if you did not want feedback on the cage, why did you post pictures of it?
Ummm, if you did not want feedback on the cage, why did you post pictures of it?
Frank, just go away all together or if you want to post pretty pictures then feel free to post in the GDD or the Cosmetic and Appearance forum. If you don't want comments don't post at all...
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*sigh* lets drop it. if I had mentioned what the cage was for, then maybe it deserves comments on legality.
i figure somebody would enjoying seeing a person's nice fab work. no comments are neccessary.
trolls: if you ain't got nice things to say on my threads, just don't post any follow ups. i can vent/post crap on this bbs as much or as little as i want, just like any members can as long as it is with in the forum guidelines.
i figure somebody would enjoying seeing a person's nice fab work. no comments are neccessary.
trolls: if you ain't got nice things to say on my threads, just don't post any follow ups. i can vent/post crap on this bbs as much or as little as i want, just like any members can as long as it is with in the forum guidelines.
I think we were all just figuring it was for "00 EM1 Civic Si new H1 race car! aka project numb/encore"
and people were (very politely, I might add) mentioning an issue that has gotten lots of discussion lately.
and people were (very politely, I might add) mentioning an issue that has gotten lots of discussion lately.
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let me rephrase, that cage is not legal for NASA HPDEs or competition....caveat emptor
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let me rephrase, that cage is not legal for NASA HPDEs or competition....caveat emptor
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Frank, if you do not want the constructive criticismn provided by the people in this forum then do not posty something here that you not wish to receive commentary on. You never stated what the car is going to be used for, with what group(s), why the cage was built, and so forth - everyone should be so lucky to receive so many suggestions when posting about safety equipment.
The people have posted with suggestions that are serious safety/legality issues that you may not have thought of and they are trying to be helpful to you. Just because they are making suggestions/commentary on what they see does not mean that they are "haters" or "trolls" as you like to label anyone that has something to say that you find offensive for some reason (and i'm still trying figure out what that is here). If you just want "oh wow, that cage is tizzzzite civic si is t3h r0xx!" then post this **** in the appearance/cosmetic forum.
You are welcome to take yourself and your "holier than thou" attitude elsewhere if you want to keep it up.
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Frank, if you do not want the constructive criticismn provided by the people in this forum then do not posty something here that you not wish to receive commentary on. You never stated what the car is going to be used for, with what group(s), why the cage was built, and so forth - everyone should be so lucky to receive so many suggestions when posting about safety equipment.
The people have posted with suggestions that are serious safety/legality issues that you may not have thought of and they are trying to be helpful to you. Just because they are making suggestions/commentary on what they see does not mean that they are "haters" or "trolls" as you like to label anyone that has something to say that you find offensive for some reason (and i'm still trying figure out what that is here). If you just want "oh wow, that cage is tizzzzite civic si is t3h r0xx!" then post this **** in the appearance/cosmetic forum.
You are welcome to take yourself and your "holier than thou" attitude elsewhere if you want to keep it up.
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trolls: if you ain't got nice things to say on my threads, just don't post any follow ups. i can vent/post crap on this bbs as much or as little as i want, just like any members can as long as it is with in the forum guidelines.
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i typically don't flame or go nuts on your threads.. but seriously man, if you're going to post pictures people are going to comment.. I was actually impressed it had remained at an intelligent level of discussion of the cage/design itself..
but yeah.. even I, a fairly new person in this sport, have seen lots of nice cages.. and for many different groups/rulesets.. including from piper.. if you think this one is special, at least say why..
besides, I'm sure an argument could even be made against his use of boxes if he's such a great fabricator..
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i typically don't flame or go nuts on your threads.. but seriously man, if you're going to post pictures people are going to comment.. I was actually impressed it had remained at an intelligent level of discussion of the cage/design itself..
but yeah.. even I, a fairly new person in this sport, have seen lots of nice cages.. and for many different groups/rulesets.. including from piper.. if you think this one is special, at least say why..
besides, I'm sure an argument could even be made against his use of boxes if he's such a great fabricator..
My friend, the first 4 responses on your thread are:
1- a fact
2- an opinion (a positive one)
3- the same fact restated
4- the same fact restated plus a recommendation
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From the first 4 replies, give one example of this. If you didn’t want any kind of feedback, you shouldn’t have posted.
Btw: a fact != a nice/not nice thing. It's just a fact. You can take it or ignore it.
1- a fact
2- an opinion (a positive one)
3- the same fact restated
4- the same fact restated plus a recommendation
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From the first 4 replies, give one example of this. If you didn’t want any kind of feedback, you shouldn’t have posted.
Btw: a fact != a nice/not nice thing. It's just a fact. You can take it or ignore it.
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This coming from the person who has been trolling the interweb for a few years now.
Frank holds the record for "Most consecutive automotive forum bannings by an individual".
Wrecked any student's cars lately in stellar moments of talentless brilliance Frank?
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This coming from the person who has been trolling the interweb for a few years now.
Frank holds the record for "Most consecutive automotive forum bannings by an individual".
Wrecked any student's cars lately in stellar moments of talentless brilliance Frank?
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He's got it... down by his shin.
He's got it... down by his shin.
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He's got it... down by his shin.
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Actually it is down by his passenger's shin.
He's got it... down by his shin.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Actually it is down by his passenger's shin.
Frank, if you haven't learned by now that this isn't a forum where you can post a picture and get 37 responses of "
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If you post a picture of a cage in this forum, it will draw comments. Good or bad.
THATS WHY THIS FORUM IS HERE!!!
So... **** off.
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Frank holds the record for "Most consecutive automotive forum bannings by an individual".
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Can we finally add this forum to the list?
Really. I'm serious this time. The guy is nothing but a nuisance and adds nothing to the community. Its not even comical anymore, its just sad.
Let him go play elsewhere, assuming there's somewhere he's still welcomed.
" and "Nice Pics" then you haven't been paying much attention.If you post a picture of a cage in this forum, it will draw comments. Good or bad.
THATS WHY THIS FORUM IS HERE!!!
So... **** off.
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Frank holds the record for "Most consecutive automotive forum bannings by an individual".
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Can we finally add this forum to the list?
Really. I'm serious this time. The guy is nothing but a nuisance and adds nothing to the community. Its not even comical anymore, its just sad.
Let him go play elsewhere, assuming there's somewhere he's still welcomed.
*sigh* you did a post with no comment in the body to say why you were posting it. You should know by now (hell I found out the hard way) you post a pic of a cage in this forum it is going to get the legal not legal for a,b, or c comments whether you want them or not. I could not tell why you put it up.
Barry H.
Barry H.
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Probably right below the chrome fire extinguisher.
Probably right below the chrome fire extinguisher.
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I see olives in there. I just dont like olives. Thats the worst pita I've ever seen!
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I see olives in there. I just dont like olives. Thats the worst pita I've ever seen!

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