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how accurate is the wideband connected to tailpipe? (dyno'd today)

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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Default how accurate is the wideband connected to tailpipe? (dyno'd today)

well i just got back from a dyno because they were having a dyno day where you can get 3 baseline pulls for 40$. i'm running a dc header to a stock exhaust right now on my ls/vtec and i was just wondering how accurate the wideband is when connected at the end of the exhaust?

before i went to the dyno, my friend did street tuning for me where he put the wideband in the header, and the a/f ratio was a consistent 12.5-13:1 ratio. now i went to the dyno today and it was at 15:1 and it had a "dry" smell to it where it seemed there was enough feul (so said the guy)

now i wouldn't think there would be any changes to the a/f ratio because i just street tuned it last week. my assumption is that the reading of the wideband is incorrect because it was connected to a skinny tailpipe on a stock 92-95 civic exhaust system.

is my theory correct or am i just running too lean? i plan on getting my friends wideband to see what my a/f ratio is pretty soon
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Default Re: how accurate is the wideband connected to tailpipe? (eg6junkie)

A "sniffer" o2 can read lean compared to a o2 run in a bung further up the exhaust. The sniffers also have filters that need to be cleaned to read properly so you never know.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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in the pdf manual that came with my innovate LM1, it says that a wide band in the tail pipe will be far from accurate if you are using a catayltic converter...
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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thanks for the response guys, at least i got the dyno for free since i was having that problem. i'll let you know if i was leaning out of not when i put the wideband in.

and also he said that there was a dry smell which means that it was leaning out when he was doing a 3rd gear pull on the dyno. isn't there alot of variables for it to have a "dry" smell? i never really even heard of leaning out causing a dry smell
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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They are not that accurate at all. Most dyno's in my area do not use a wideband connected to the tailpipe. They tend to read alot leaners also.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Andrew, when we tuned my cousins turbo gsr at DSR, we did 1 dyno pull with opendownpipe and 1 pull with closed stock exhaust and the run with the closed exhaust ran richer than the open exhaust..
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