Hobart or Lincon tig
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Hobart or Lincon tig
I can't take it any more.I'm looking at buying a lincon 185 amp unit #20599 ($1700) or Hobart tigmate 150 amp ($1260).I've got access to a 300 amp at a friends but I'd like one at the house.I can get these on my sears card($27/$38 a month) so these are my choices.They are both ac/dc and all I'll be doing is light fabrication.Do I need to spend the extra $440 for the lincon.Any comments welcome.
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (NJIN BUILDR)
I'd say neither one, if you have to put it on a credit card. You'll spend an extra $400-500 for it in the long run if you do.
Think about it...one of the big differences in rich and poor people is that poor people buy before having the money and rich people don't buy small stuff if they have to borrow. Another big difference is MANAGING MONEY. Borrowing at 20+% is far from good money management.
A college economics teacher I had once said that if you want to have 20% more in life, all you have to do is not use credit cards. It makes sense.
I have twice what I used to have....since I quit credit card usage.
Think about it...one of the big differences in rich and poor people is that poor people buy before having the money and rich people don't buy small stuff if they have to borrow. Another big difference is MANAGING MONEY. Borrowing at 20+% is far from good money management.
A college economics teacher I had once said that if you want to have 20% more in life, all you have to do is not use credit cards. It makes sense.
I have twice what I used to have....since I quit credit card usage.
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (Engloid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Engloid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say neither one, if you have to put it on a credit card. You'll spend an extra $400-500 for it in the long run if you do.
Think about it...one of the big differences in rich and poor people is that poor people buy before having the money and rich people don't buy small stuff if they have to borrow. Another big difference is MANAGING MONEY. Borrowing at 20+% is far from good money management.
A college economics teacher I had once said that if you want to have 20% more in life, all you have to do is not use credit cards. It makes sense.
I have twice what I used to have....since I quit credit card usage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
who the hell are you tryin to kid.... lol... .how did you buy your house?how did you build that nice *** garage at your house? how did you put that addition on your house? how did you get that swiming pool? how did you buy your car? the world revolves around credit.........
Think about it...one of the big differences in rich and poor people is that poor people buy before having the money and rich people don't buy small stuff if they have to borrow. Another big difference is MANAGING MONEY. Borrowing at 20+% is far from good money management.
A college economics teacher I had once said that if you want to have 20% more in life, all you have to do is not use credit cards. It makes sense.
I have twice what I used to have....since I quit credit card usage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
who the hell are you tryin to kid.... lol... .how did you buy your house?how did you build that nice *** garage at your house? how did you put that addition on your house? how did you get that swiming pool? how did you buy your car? the world revolves around credit.........
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (Dturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who the hell are you tryin to kid.... lol... .how did you buy your house?how did you build that nice *** garage at your house? how did you put that addition on your house? how did you get that swiming pool? how did you buy your car? the world revolves around credit......... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Did I say anything about buying a house on credit? No, I didn't.
I don't have a swimming pool, and I paid cash for all my vehicles.
I have a house, garage (with several nice pieces of equiment), car, truck, 3 motorcycles (one of which is an 03 gsxr1000), I watch tv on a 57" Hitachi Ultravision, and don't rely on credit to buy things I don't need.
I owe nothing on any vehicles. I owe $140 on the tv because I got an 18 mos same as cash deal. I took the purchase price, divided by 18, and have made the payment every month...and next month will be the last. Therefore, I bought it with 0% interest. That's called managing money. The money I was loaned with no interest was then allowed to stay in other places where I made interest. So, rather than paying for a loan, I got paid! So, by the end of next month, I will officially owe on nothing but my house.
Do you see a difference in relying on a loan to buy a house at about 6% interest and buying a $400 item you don't really need for 20%?
For every 2 vehicles you buy on credit, you could have bought a third...if you had only paid cash for them. However, if you'd rather give your money to the fat cats that lend money....it's your money to waste.
Did I say anything about buying a house on credit? No, I didn't.
I don't have a swimming pool, and I paid cash for all my vehicles.
I have a house, garage (with several nice pieces of equiment), car, truck, 3 motorcycles (one of which is an 03 gsxr1000), I watch tv on a 57" Hitachi Ultravision, and don't rely on credit to buy things I don't need.
I owe nothing on any vehicles. I owe $140 on the tv because I got an 18 mos same as cash deal. I took the purchase price, divided by 18, and have made the payment every month...and next month will be the last. Therefore, I bought it with 0% interest. That's called managing money. The money I was loaned with no interest was then allowed to stay in other places where I made interest. So, rather than paying for a loan, I got paid! So, by the end of next month, I will officially owe on nothing but my house.
Do you see a difference in relying on a loan to buy a house at about 6% interest and buying a $400 item you don't really need for 20%?
For every 2 vehicles you buy on credit, you could have bought a third...if you had only paid cash for them. However, if you'd rather give your money to the fat cats that lend money....it's your money to waste.
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (Engloid)
damn, u got a mouth full everytime ya post. got couple years under your belt, eh? i love it 
i wasnt speaking of you particularly, by making a general statement, normal everyday people dont have 250,000+ to drop on a somewhat decent house and piece of land(this is low price in my area), than drop more money on getting everything else to go with their house...(everything inside it, like furniture & etc)
its hard as **** to go anywhere these days, in life, if you dont have some sort of "credit" under your belt?
i duno maybe i see it from the other side of the fence.... i have never owned a credit card. i think it would be great to get all kinds a **** on them. than have a decent monthly payment..i guess your doomed if ya do that though... cause what happens when ya break something?(speakin about car parts breakin) put something else on the credit card..lol... gimmie a shovel, i'll dig my own grave.
i dunno.. life sucks... and so does insurance, credi companys and the god forsaken law.
i wasnt speaking of you particularly, by making a general statement, normal everyday people dont have 250,000+ to drop on a somewhat decent house and piece of land(this is low price in my area), than drop more money on getting everything else to go with their house...(everything inside it, like furniture & etc)
its hard as **** to go anywhere these days, in life, if you dont have some sort of "credit" under your belt?
i duno maybe i see it from the other side of the fence.... i have never owned a credit card. i think it would be great to get all kinds a **** on them. than have a decent monthly payment..i guess your doomed if ya do that though... cause what happens when ya break something?(speakin about car parts breakin) put something else on the credit card..lol... gimmie a shovel, i'll dig my own grave.
i dunno.. life sucks... and so does insurance, credi companys and the god forsaken law.
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (Dturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> damn, u got a mouth full everytime ya post. got couple years under your belt, eh? i love it </TD></TR></TABLE>
I type pretty fast, so I say what's on my mind and don't have to worry about the quickest way to type it or abbreviate or anything.
I have made my mistakes in life, and even a few extra. I went through a crappy divorce, represented myself, and came out ok.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i wasnt speaking of you particularly, by making a general statement, normal everyday people dont have 250,000+ to drop on a somewhat decent house and piece of land(this is low price in my area), than drop more money on getting everything else to go with their house...(everything inside it, like furniture & etc) </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, although payscales aren't really great where I live, neither is the cost of living. I bought a 3br house with 1900 sq ft for $66k. Granted, after about 8 years of ownership, the value isn't but about 80-85k....but that's more appreciation than it is inflation.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its hard as **** to go anywhere these days, in life, if you dont have some sort of "credit" under your belt? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The key is to USE THEM, NOT LET THEM USE YOU. If you want to build credit, find deals that are "same as cash" and have the discipline to pay it off on time and avoid the interest. On those deals, they stick you hard if you don't. What they do is that if you have even $1.00 balance when the time is up, they hit you with the interest for the entire period of time of the loan. Like on my TV, the interest has been adding up for all the time, and the statement shows it. However, if I pay off the TV amount on time, I don't pay it. If I don't pay it off, I owe all that interest.
These things can build credit without having to pay big interest. Also, avoid credit cards with yearly fees. Many of the "preapproved" ones I get in the mail will have a $50 application fee (haha, when you're already approved?), then a yearly fee of $50. Therefore, soon as you fill out the form and send it in, you have a balance of $100 and they start adding on interest.
Just remember, as I heard one time, "learn from others' mistakes because life is too short to make them all yourself."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i duno maybe i see it from the other side of the fence.... i have never owned a credit card. i think it would be great to get all kinds a **** on them. than have a decent monthly payment..i guess your doomed if ya do that though... cause what happens when ya break something?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's about like borrowing a friend's corvette and wrecking it. They you have to pay for a corvette, but you never even own one yourself.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I type pretty fast, so I say what's on my mind and don't have to worry about the quickest way to type it or abbreviate or anything.
I have made my mistakes in life, and even a few extra. I went through a crappy divorce, represented myself, and came out ok.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i wasnt speaking of you particularly, by making a general statement, normal everyday people dont have 250,000+ to drop on a somewhat decent house and piece of land(this is low price in my area), than drop more money on getting everything else to go with their house...(everything inside it, like furniture & etc) </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, although payscales aren't really great where I live, neither is the cost of living. I bought a 3br house with 1900 sq ft for $66k. Granted, after about 8 years of ownership, the value isn't but about 80-85k....but that's more appreciation than it is inflation.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its hard as **** to go anywhere these days, in life, if you dont have some sort of "credit" under your belt? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The key is to USE THEM, NOT LET THEM USE YOU. If you want to build credit, find deals that are "same as cash" and have the discipline to pay it off on time and avoid the interest. On those deals, they stick you hard if you don't. What they do is that if you have even $1.00 balance when the time is up, they hit you with the interest for the entire period of time of the loan. Like on my TV, the interest has been adding up for all the time, and the statement shows it. However, if I pay off the TV amount on time, I don't pay it. If I don't pay it off, I owe all that interest.
These things can build credit without having to pay big interest. Also, avoid credit cards with yearly fees. Many of the "preapproved" ones I get in the mail will have a $50 application fee (haha, when you're already approved?), then a yearly fee of $50. Therefore, soon as you fill out the form and send it in, you have a balance of $100 and they start adding on interest.
Just remember, as I heard one time, "learn from others' mistakes because life is too short to make them all yourself."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i duno maybe i see it from the other side of the fence.... i have never owned a credit card. i think it would be great to get all kinds a **** on them. than have a decent monthly payment..i guess your doomed if ya do that though... cause what happens when ya break something?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's about like borrowing a friend's corvette and wrecking it. They you have to pay for a corvette, but you never even own one yourself.
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (Engloid)
Wow...
I guess my point was lost somewhere.My decision is between those models.I was trying to avoid the "I'd buy the Miller" option.Fortunately I live in a capitalist country and can chose to use my credit now while I have the time to use the welder.I actually thought this was an easy question.
That being said,anyone have issues with Hobart products.
Thanks,Glenn
I guess my point was lost somewhere.My decision is between those models.I was trying to avoid the "I'd buy the Miller" option.Fortunately I live in a capitalist country and can chose to use my credit now while I have the time to use the welder.I actually thought this was an easy question.
That being said,anyone have issues with Hobart products.
Thanks,Glenn
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (NJIN BUILDR)
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Yes, you have that right...and the fatcats that lend the money are the actual capitalists in this situation and are capitalizing on your decision.
What's the point in spending $1200+ on a Hobart Tigmate when you can buy a Maxstar150 for less?
Yes, you have that right...and the fatcats that lend the money are the actual capitalists in this situation and are capitalizing on your decision.
What's the point in spending $1200+ on a Hobart Tigmate when you can buy a Maxstar150 for less?
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Re: Hobart or Lincon tig (NJIN BUILDR)
You can probably get into an econotig if you want AC abilities. I havn't used the Tigmate, so I can't really say much about it. I have had great luck with every miller machine I've used though, so I trust their machines.
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