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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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so here is the follow up on that story. I got the new dizzy new spark plugs new cables, still nothing now what i want to know is how can one test to see if the fuel pressure regulator is bad? could it be the problem? what else can i look for i really rather get the car started before i take it to the shop. i have NO CEL nothing at all i had code 15, 21, 1, and 41 they are all fixed now. the ecu is giving me no codes at all so now i am lost still good compression got a gooooooooood spark i mean it shocked the **** out of my when my boy turned the key (props to Dizzyking) so i am so lost if you can help me out please do, **** if you live in the PA area i will throw you some money if you can get it started!!
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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i has the same problem, check all of your grounds. i ended up having a bad tranny ground.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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does anyone know how i can check to see if the fuel pressure regulator is bad?
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiclxb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know how i can check to see if the fuel pressure regulator is bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you try checking the fuel pump? you should be able to hear it
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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To start you need fuel, fire and timing. If your not getting fuel or fire ( which it sounds like you are) then it might be a broken t-belt. check and see.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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nope brand new timing belt brand new water pump brand new dizzy brand new alt. brand new spark plugs brand new cables, the civic was running for 4 months before i got code 15 the car was acting like it was out of gas that is why i was asking if a fpr can go bad and how can i check it
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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yeah the fuel pump works just fine i hear it and i took the line off the rail and it came out just fine!
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiclxb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know how i can check to see if the fuel pressure regulator is bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>
A quick check is to pinch off the return line so no fuel can be returned to the tank.
I rarely see fuel pressure regulators go bad, I would not look there first.
Buy a Factory Honda shop manual. Its a good way to learn how to troubleshoot the right way.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda-Pilot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A quick check is to pinch off the return line so no fuel can be returned to the tank.
I rarely see fuel pressure regulators go bad, I would not look there first.
Buy a Factory Honda shop manual. Its a good way to learn how to troubleshoot the right way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
been there done that man got a helms and the book tells me that to fix code 15 go in this order

one replace spark plugs
two replace spark plug cables
three replace distributor

i did all three of them now that the code 15 is gone i have no clue why it doesn't want to start!
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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check your ignition coil and
double check wires on the distributor cap
good luck!
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T3Ek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your ignition coil and
double check wires on the distributor cap
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brand new cap wires are in the right order brand new rotor, i am so lost because i don't even have a cel, here is something i was thinking about, this is why i think my fuel pressure reg is bad, when i first go to start the car i put the key in i hear it prime i turn the key and it starts for a breif second and then after that it just keeps turning and turning, now i know that the cap and rotor are good because when we spray starter fluid in the Intake it runs when i step on the gas while it is running it seems like it is only running on two cylinders so i am wondering now if the fpr is bad and if i have two bad injectors. what do you think?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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ok well here is the deal i tried it with two different fpr and it does the same thing it starts for that brief second and then turns off it doesn't want to stay on. now what i am wondering is what next. brand new dizzy, alt, spark plugs, spark plug cables, two different fpr's, what else can i look for?
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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feel your fuel injectors and see if they click.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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I know you said the plugs are new but if you've been trying to start it and it won't start, you could have fouled the plugs.

My car did the exact same thing, starts for about half a second then dies and won't do ****.

Replaced the plugs as a last ditch effort, Vrooom

Try it, what can it hurt?

Starting fluid has a high flash point and maybe you can ignite that with bad plugs.

Too cheap to buy plugs? I put the plug tips in a propane torch's flame then a few passes of fine sandpaper in the gap.

Let me know if I can collect that $100.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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sorry man do not pass go, do not collect $100 go directly to jail. i changed the plugs already and i even used a set of plugs from my dx and nothing i put all 12 of the plugs in the dx and they all worked just fine
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Have you done a spark plug test? To see if the spark plugs are even getting spark?

Have you tried heard the fuel injectors click?

Fuel pump is good?

Timing is on the money (using timing light)?

Have you changed the oil? Sounds weird but I have heard some times you will flood the engine with gas and it will affect it starting.

Even though it is a new timing belt it is still on there right? You can take off the dizzy cap and turn the key to start it and if the rotor moves you are good.

Does all the power accessories stay on? Do you have a good charged battery?

well let me know.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you done a spark plug test? To see if the spark plugs are even getting spark?

Have you tried heard the fuel injectors click?

Fuel pump is good?

Timing is on the money (using timing light)?

Have you changed the oil? Sounds weird but I have heard some times you will flood the engine with gas and it will affect it starting.

Even though it is a new timing belt it is still on there right? You can take off the dizzy cap and turn the key to start it and if the rotor moves you are good.

Does all the power accessories stay on? Do you have a good charged battery?

well let me know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
injectors. took them out the intake manifold and they sprayed nice and hard
fuel pump. has to be good if the injectors are spraying good
timing. can't use a timing light if the engine doesn't start.
oil. oil has 30 miles on it, but it is an idea i never thought about oil being a problem
my battery has a great charge becasue i put it on the battery tender every day.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Default Re: code 15 is gone and it still doesn't start (civiclxb16)

What if you just leave just keep your car in the starting position (so the starter is turning the motor) then what happens?

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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it just keeps turning and turning and spudders and turns but never really turns on
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Have you verified you are getting fuel? You say you believe you are but how are your fuel filters?

When you did your timing belt did you check to see if your dizzy rotor was on the #1 piston also?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you verified you are getting fuel? You say you believe you are but how are your fuel filters?

When you did your timing belt did you check to see if your dizzy rotor was on the #1 piston also?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i am getting fuel. i took the fuel rail out and left the injectors in the rail and turned the key and they sprayed all four of them. my fuel filter is brand new and the fuel comes out just fine from the filter and the rail so that isn't an issue. the timing belt was redone and it is and was at tdc and the rotor is pointing at the number one spark cable.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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when you turn the car due all the power accessories stay on?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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yeah they stay on the radio the cd player all my little lights and stuff they all stay on the lights in the dash are on is that what you are talking about?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Check your firing order - 1,3,4,2...
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