Sway Bar Mod? Is this better by taking off the OEM?
I found this on http://www.92lude.com/sway_bar_mod.htm
I have a 91 Prelude and wanted to know if this worked and if it would work on mine since I have a 91 Si 4WS dropped.
Sway Bar Mod
No, this isn't an engine mod. If you have lowered your car with lowering springs, remove the front sway bar. Honda puts a huge front sway bar on the cars to prevent over steer, so millions of old ladies with no idea of how to control a sideways car won't wreck and sue Honda. The sway bar dramatically stiffens up the front end which reduces front wheel traction(ie. steering). More front traction means more steering. If you have more steering you can go faster into corners and still have the ability to turn. SO basically, your car will handle a ton better. On a stock car this also helps reduce body roll, that why I recommend that you do it to a lowered car which has significantly less body roll than a stock height car. I removed the sway bar on a friend's stock height 94 Prelude and it had so much body roll it was scary at times. The car was a lot more unstable at high speeds also. However on my car(which had race springs) and Chris's 90Si (which has lowering springs/struts) the handling was improved a ton. So if you lowered your car, take the front sway bar and all the hardware off and throw it in a corner of your garage. Then take your car to an open track event or autocross and rail on it around a few corners and if you know how to drive, you will see a difference, big time. You have to push the car to it's limit to notice the difference. If you're a wuss and you don't push the car you won't notice anything. I took mine off and never put if back on. Around low speed sharp corners I've had my 92 totally sideways before, that's how much steering it has. To remove the sway bar you need to jack up the car, put it on jack stands and remove both front wheels. There are two 12mm bolts attaching the mounts to the car, then there are two 12mm nuts attaching the sway bar to the front suspension. There won't be any tension on the bar and it pulls out over the exhaust down pipe.
I have a 91 Prelude and wanted to know if this worked and if it would work on mine since I have a 91 Si 4WS dropped.
Sway Bar Mod
No, this isn't an engine mod. If you have lowered your car with lowering springs, remove the front sway bar. Honda puts a huge front sway bar on the cars to prevent over steer, so millions of old ladies with no idea of how to control a sideways car won't wreck and sue Honda. The sway bar dramatically stiffens up the front end which reduces front wheel traction(ie. steering). More front traction means more steering. If you have more steering you can go faster into corners and still have the ability to turn. SO basically, your car will handle a ton better. On a stock car this also helps reduce body roll, that why I recommend that you do it to a lowered car which has significantly less body roll than a stock height car. I removed the sway bar on a friend's stock height 94 Prelude and it had so much body roll it was scary at times. The car was a lot more unstable at high speeds also. However on my car(which had race springs) and Chris's 90Si (which has lowering springs/struts) the handling was improved a ton. So if you lowered your car, take the front sway bar and all the hardware off and throw it in a corner of your garage. Then take your car to an open track event or autocross and rail on it around a few corners and if you know how to drive, you will see a difference, big time. You have to push the car to it's limit to notice the difference. If you're a wuss and you don't push the car you won't notice anything. I took mine off and never put if back on. Around low speed sharp corners I've had my 92 totally sideways before, that's how much steering it has. To remove the sway bar you need to jack up the car, put it on jack stands and remove both front wheels. There are two 12mm bolts attaching the mounts to the car, then there are two 12mm nuts attaching the sway bar to the front suspension. There won't be any tension on the bar and it pulls out over the exhaust down pipe.
If it was me, I would just buy a thicker rear bar to compensate for the thickness of the front bar. The front bar is there for a performance reason, not just to keep "old ladies from wrecking". As he said it ties the front end together. Oh well, like I said, my opinion is keep the front and buy a thicker rear.
BAD idea!
I believe the consensus was it's only good for limited autocrossing where you are not allowed to upgrade the bars w/ aftermarket bars, so you have to remove the front bar to rotate the car around. THEY ONLY DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY!
I believe the consensus was it's only good for limited autocrossing where you are not allowed to upgrade the bars w/ aftermarket bars, so you have to remove the front bar to rotate the car around. THEY ONLY DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY!
Actually it's only the lighter cars that take off the front sway for autocross purposes. As they can compensate using springs. On heaviers cars like ours almost everyone leaves it on as slalom's suck otherwise. For track racing many track racers take the front one off regardless of weight as slaloms aren't an issue.
The mods on that site are a little retarded. Pulling the vacuum reference off the FPR is increase fuel pressure is retarded, it just makes the FPR bring pressure like its at WOT. Doubtful that you would gain power consider oe fuel maps are already rich as is. Not to mention, terrible for fuel economy, emissions and fouling out plugs. And that ignition timing mod, holy crap is that retarded. Learn to use a timing light for god sake.
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i've removed my front sway, and the car's been a little loose since i've done it. I think i can dial it out, so it's not a big deal. i didn't think i could get a nose heavy FF car to rotate TOO well, but as it stands that's how the car drives.
there's more lean in corners, and quick transitions are definitely less facile without the front bar but it's not too bad.
plus it takes a good 10-15 lbs off.
i've removed my front sway, and the car's been a little loose since i've done it. I think i can dial it out, so it's not a big deal. i didn't think i could get a nose heavy FF car to rotate TOO well, but as it stands that's how the car drives.
there's more lean in corners, and quick transitions are definitely less facile without the front bar but it's not too bad.
plus it takes a good 10-15 lbs off.
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Don't listen to that dumbass website. He(they) have no idea what they are talking about. They are the type that use a "high-performance" air filter directly onto the intake manifold because it brings in more air, but in essence, they do everything half-assed. I wouldn't recommend doing taht at all!
The mods on that site are a little retarded. Pulling the vacuum reference off the FPR is increase fuel pressure is retarded, it just makes the FPR bring pressure like its at WOT. Doubtful that you would gain power consider oe fuel maps are already rich as is. Not to mention, terrible for fuel economy, emissions and fouling out plugs. And that ignition timing mod, holy crap is that retarded. Learn to use a timing light for god sake.
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