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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Default Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA?

Just curious. I'm still debating on the next level for my B18C1 hybrid CX.
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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what do you have done to your gsr now? kinda makes sense to build off what you got. id say turbo though
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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NA.

Your hybrid is gonna be fast enough (unless you're in drag competition) with good bolt-ons to your B18C.
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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fast enough?? get a turbo dude, you won't regret it!
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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I'm not a fan of Turbo+VTEC. I say get a supercharger and a 55shot of N20. That should be quick enough for most people.
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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I'm not a fan of Turbo+VTEC. I say get a supercharger and a 55shot of N20. That should be quick enough for most people.

??????????


yeah, vtec sucks for turbos....




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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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Just curious. I'm still debating on the next level for my B18C1 hybrid CX.

hows this for a stock block 1995 b18c1:



11.38 @ 125 mph
daily driven
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (jinxproof99)

jinzproof99 ~ how much boost are you running on your stock B18C1 block?? How many miles are on your engine?

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Turbo all the way!!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (TurboR481)

LS = Turbo

GSR = NA
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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LS = Turbo

GSR = NA
how do u figure?
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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Some of these guys up top are confused...

Todd definitely go with the turbo if your looking for bigger power gains.

By the way I'm selling my T3/T4 and downpipe if your interested.....

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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b18c1 is a great platform for na or fi compression is not to high for turbo but not to low for na
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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u have to set ur goal..like how much power n how fast u wanna go..
then decide the best way to do it..
personally..i wouldnt go all drag racing..
i would want a full interior set up..so ill boost my car..and probably spend 4-5k max..
the b18c1 at 12psi vs. b18a at 12psi...the b18c1 will win..
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (pLaYbOi)

My b18c1 seems to like the turbo attached to it.
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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yeah, vtec sucks for turbos....



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That engine is not a VTEC motor anymore. The VTEC is disabled.

BTW, VTEC engines do like boost, but there's more tuning involved over, say a B18 or B20.

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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 05:59 AM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (Yellow Dragon)

What application? Drag, Street, AutoX, Open Track, ECHC? If it's anything but Drag or Street, I would probably stick with reliability and smooth response of NA, and spend my money on suspension, any necessary safety equipment, and then consumables (track time, tires, brake pads, rotors, fluid, etc.).

I'm guessing you're more interested in Drag/Street, so perhaps Turbo or nitrous might be a better route to jollies for ya. Check into what's legal in your area.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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Turbo that monster. I plan on doing it to my hybrid 5th gen B18c1. The question for me is:
A. What kit to buy?
B. Should I piece it together?

Will I be able to have A/C?.......just kidding.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Turbo that monster. I plan on doing it to my hybrid 5th gen B18c1. The question for me is:
A. What kit to buy?
B. Should I piece it together?

Will I be able to have A/C?.......just kidding.
To answer your question of, if its better to buy a kit or peace it together I would have to ask you and tell you this...

If you don't know that much about turbo systems and how they go together and operate or even if you have a little knowlidge about them I would just go ahead
and buy a kit and save yourself the hassle.....

On the other hand if your pritty experianced and have turbocharged a car before and know all of the components It would be smarter for you to peace a turbo kit togther or just buy the max rev kit and get a pump because that kits components are really good right out of the box..

Adi
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (Yellow Dragon)

jinzproof99 ~ how much boost are you running on your stock B18C1 block?? How many miles are on your engine?

Thanks,
Todd
i ran that motor for 1 year with 150,000+ miles on it. stock internals. pushed 21+ lbs of boost @ around 365 hsp to the wheels.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (420TegLS)

LS = Turbo

GSR = NA

420 huh, you must smoke alot of weed to come up with that. gsr would NOT be my choice for na and the ls would only be a choice at all if it had 87 mm pistons, oil squirters, a vtec head, bla, bla, bla...............
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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yeah, vtec sucks for turbos....

That engine is not a VTEC motor anymore. The VTEC is disabled.

BTW, VTEC engines do like boost, but there's more tuning involved over, say a B18 or B20.

my point was to show that the top drag racers use vtec heads. he used vtec for along time and almost EVERYONE else still uses it. in fact, the most popular honda motor for f/i today is the b18c1. built block, ported head, and stock gsr cams produce well above 600 hsp to the wheels.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (Guardson3r3)

Turbo that monster. I plan on doing it to my hybrid 5th gen B18c1. The question for me is:
A. What kit to buy?
B. Should I piece it together?

Will I be able to have A/C?.......just kidding.

don't buy a kit. piece it together.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Do you guys think the B18C1 is a better candidate for FI or NA? (jinxproof99)

If your planning on keeping this car as a daily driver, in hopes of cranking out well over 100,000 miles, I'd say go with N/A. However, in going N/A, expect to spend near $8000 to see the kind of gains you can see with a Turbo charged setup and slight tuning. I'm planning on going N/A, mainly because I can pretty much retain stock parts and still push 200whp. However, it's gonna take a lot of money and some real tuning. You can't compensate for Turbo power, especially at the cost. However, with a GS-R, I'd go for N/A, partly because I'm biased and I like to waste money, but would rather retain the more reliable stock parts.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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NA IS NO MORE RELIABLE THAN FORCED INDUCTION
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