Finally was able to import some Left Hand Drive Civic Type R projectors in HID... I may be able to get a few more in JDM and Euro LHD varieties... check sticky at top of forum... this is not a blatent advertisement, these are the first and only so far to grace this side of the atlantic to my knowledge... Therefore being worth some recognition.

Most people get the JDM projectors... 1 they're not HID. 2 they have RHD patterns, even if you add a PNP kit it will most likely be misaligned and not sealed properly. these are OEM sealed...


















high beam:


Some more shots for your viewing pleasure... these are the ones that count in the HID world, cutoff color which is the flicker you see with HID projectors... quite nice I must say.













Almost a purple in some of the shots :-) the top 3 is what oncoming cars will see right before it turns to the regular HID white...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ocelaris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Finally was able to import some Left Hand Drive Civic Type R projectors in HID... </TD></TR></TABLE>

From where? Germany?

I'll buy some if you install them!

 

It'd be my pleasure to install them for you George...

But did you see that price tag? 900$ for the LHD 750$ for the JDM... you'll need like 20$ in parts for the relay harness to run the HIDs.

They're pricey, but they're the best you can buy also ) Considering the JDM vendors are selling the Halogen version for 600$, 150$ extra for OEM HIDs worth 300$ by themselves... ain't a bad deal

 

It's OK. The EP3 is a very unpopular, strange little car but I think I am going to hang onto it for another year or even two.

I put a decent amount of miles on my daily driver (60,000 miles on the EP3 already), and many of those miles are at night, and sometimes on country roads.

Factory HID would be worth it, I think, under those circumstances, unless you're saying you know you can get the JDM to work as well.

 

that's just bad ***.

JP

 

Hey if you got the money for the Euro LHD, that's fine with me, I just don't have that many sets. But if you want them, and have cash this week/weekend, I'll install em and make you a harness for free! I know I'm going to get more sets, but it's going to be a month till they come in.

OH yes, after 3 retrofits (putting HID projetors) into stock housings, I have to say these are by far the nicest headlights I've ever seen. Bar none the coolest in all the HID world IMO. And I ain't kidding, I've cracked open 4 sets of our USDM headlights to change them into something half as cool as this!

my first retrofit:



the back... ewww



My second retrofit:



back


getting better...



BEST

 

Switching to IM.

 

very nice! they're definitely on my list of things to buy!

 

Price is actually very resonable.
Condering RHD 04 projectors cost around $500 and beam pattern sucks.

Wish i could afford them, just bought coilovers

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ocelaris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It'd be my pleasure to install them for you George...

But did you see that price tag? 900$ for the LHD 750$ for the JDM... you'll need like 20$ in parts for the relay harness to run the HIDs.

They're pricey, but they're the best you can buy also ) Considering the JDM vendors are selling the Halogen version for 600$, 150$ extra for OEM HIDs worth 300$ by themselves... ain't a bad deal</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have JDM HID on my dc5 and never ran a relay. are you sure you need it? nice lights by the way.

 

You can probably get by without one.

However people have fried their wiring harness and switches before.

The power is better, it's almost a standard to use a harness with a relay and fused off the battery.

Anyone who knows anything about HIDs, retrofits etc... Uses a harness.

The inrush current draw of a ballast is near 10 amps, 120 watts and can eventually fry switches and wires not meant to draw that current.

I use a harness. those are my arguements for a harness.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ocelaris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can probably get by without one.

However people have fried their wiring harness and switches before.

The power is better, it's almost a standard to use a harness with a relay and fused off the battery.

Anyone who knows anything about HIDs, retrofits etc... Uses a harness.

The inrush current draw of a ballast is near 10 amps, 120 watts and can eventually fry switches and wires not meant to draw that current.

I use a harness. those are my arguements for a harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've had my HID on for like 3 years. I think maybe aftermarket HIDs you may need a harness but not OEM.

 

No it's the same thing. I gaurantee you. Mitsubishi sells the same ballasts to catz, as it does to honda... now that HID kits are illegal though the big manufacturers aren't doing as much of that...

Different cars have different wiring. but check your gauge wiring, it's probably only 18 at best, 20 most likely. 20 gauge wire for greater than 5 feet is NOT rated at 10 amps of current.

It's a risk, you probably can get by as I said before. But there is 0 difference between OEM and aftermarket requirements electrically because the bulbs are all 35 watts and the ballasts must conform to ignite the bulbs the same.

Sorry I'm not feelin well so I'm gonna be blunt and get some sleep... Wiring systems meant for Halogens (your car) are not meant for HIDs. You like anyone else without a harness runs the risk of burning out your electrical system. If I wasn't cranky I'd tell you that honda could have put large enough gauge wire to handle it... but there is no such thing as USDM HIDs in a RSX/EP3... so probably not. JDM, maybe.

Find out the gauge wire that the low beam JDMs use and you'll prove your point that the USDM RSX can handle the HID load.

But no, there is no difference between an OEM load and a PNP load. Electricity is electricity, and it doesn't care if you have a JDM emblem on it.

If you don't believe me, go to hidplanet and ask if you need a harness and see the response. there are people who do this professionally on there. They'll tell you the same thing

 

These are being installed right now. LOL... Wish us luck.

 

Nice, this is what I've been look for all along. HOW MUCH do these go again?

 

I followed the post but I couldnt tell if that was for the pair or PER piece.

 

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The pair.

I ran around w/them a little while. They really work quite well, although I think Bill was sorry he said he'd install them.

 

Only sorry it took me so embarassingly long to wire them up.

Some pics:

 

hot damn thats awesome. i want a beam pattern like that!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ocelaris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it's the same thing. I gaurantee you. Mitsubishi sells the same ballasts to catz, as it does to honda... now that HID kits are illegal though the big manufacturers aren't doing as much of that...

Different cars have different wiring. but check your gauge wiring, it's probably only 18 at best, 20 most likely. 20 gauge wire for greater than 5 feet is NOT rated at 10 amps of current.

It's a risk, you probably can get by as I said before. But there is 0 difference between OEM and aftermarket requirements electrically because the bulbs are all 35 watts and the ballasts must conform to ignite the bulbs the same.

Sorry I'm not feelin well so I'm gonna be blunt and get some sleep... Wiring systems meant for Halogens (your car) are not meant for HIDs. You like anyone else without a harness runs the risk of burning out your electrical system. If I wasn't cranky I'd tell you that honda could have put large enough gauge wire to handle it... but there is no such thing as USDM HIDs in a RSX/EP3... so probably not. JDM, maybe.

Find out the gauge wire that the low beam JDMs use and you'll prove your point that the USDM RSX can handle the HID load.

But no, there is no difference between an OEM load and a PNP load. Electricity is electricity, and it doesn't care if you have a JDM emblem on it.

If you don't believe me, go to hidplanet and ask if you need a harness and see the response. there are people who do this professionally on there. They'll tell you the same thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's totally cool man. but see I have the pigtails from japan and they are the same guage as the USDM wiring is. they don't look like 18 though. maybe 16-14 gauge. I still think it looks sick on your car. I'll try to post my JDM HID with my JDM ion fogs.

 

I grow more suspicious about the needs for a relay when I hear things like this. And I'll admit I'm just spouting common HID retro gossip. I don't have any special interest in relays, so I'm apt to believe you

sorry I was being sort of a jerk yesterday, was running a low grade fever and flu.

I suspect some cars have better wiring than others, and I'm used to dealing with people who work on fords, chevys, mazdas, toyotas etc... not necessarily a honda only group like this forum. So it is possible, that if HIDs were an option for the vehicle honda made ALL of them with wiring capable of handling the load. As oppposed to rewiring USDM cars differently than JDM/UKDM/EDM etc... just wouldn't mave sense to wire it for one country, especially since all the EP3s are made in england, or whatever, same factory. Not like there is a USDM factory and a UKDM factory...

I think probably because SOME manufacturers use less than 16 or 18 gauge wire, that it's just become standard practice to say ALL cars need a relay harness.

That isn't to say they aren't useful however, a higher gauge wire (up to a point) will definetly function better, especially with halogen it can make a big improvement. And in the EP3 02/03 case, you must use relays to convert the H4 bulb to 9005 high beams and HID low beams.

 

hey , how have you been , i know you told me you would be able to help me instal my progector lights . i had the jdm face ones . they leaked water so i took them out and put them in basement .

but these that you have now , show stoppers sells them for about 550.00 . oem jdm projectors . i do not belive they are hid ready tho . what is the difference between LHD and RHD lights . do they beam differently ? i would of though they wouyld shine straigh foward . if i got these from showstoppers would they be good and would you put a hid conversion in them . im kinda happy with these bulbs i have in my stock lights , there pretty bright accualy lol.
sorry for these questions but you are the man here lol.

is there alot of custom wiring like with i did with my old projector lights since thse are the 04 version . i might get these in a month or 2 and you said along time ago you would be able to help me install them , that would be cool .


one other thing . will these pass state inspection . i failed yesterday just becuse of the blue tinted headlights . i said there d.o.t legal , but he siad there not safty inspection legal . what about these lights honda projectors ?

thanks alot for helping me out . i will make my purchase based on what you say to me lol

tommy

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpine192 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey , how have you been , i know you told me you would be able to help me instal my progector lights . i had the jdm face ones . they leaked water so i took them out and put them in basement .

but these that you have now , show stoppers sells them for about 550.00 . oem jdm projectors . i do not belive they are hid ready tho . what is the difference between LHD and RHD lights . do they beam differently ? i would of though they wouyld shine straigh foward . if i got these from showstoppers would they be good and would you put a hid conversion in them . im kinda happy with these bulbs i have in my stock lights , there pretty bright accualy lol.
sorry for these questions but you are the man here lol.

is there alot of custom wiring like with i did with my old projector lights since thse are the 04 version . i might get these in a month or 2 and you said along time ago you would be able to help me install them , that would be cool .


one other thing . will these pass state inspection . i failed yesterday just becuse of the blue tinted headlights . i said there d.o.t legal , but he siad there not safty inspection legal . what about these lights honda projectors ?

thanks alot for helping me out . i will make my purchase based on what you say to me lol

tommy</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok if you what HID sooner or later I wouldn't get regular non HID and put them in. They are not meant to take the light of HID so they will night shine right. Do it right and get the right ones so you won't have problems later. LHD projectors shines the right way for us US guys. RHD shines still ok but not as clean.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpine192 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. what is the difference between LHD and RHD lights . do they beam differently ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

HID designed for road use with LHD vehicles will have the designed flare on the right side, to illuminate the road signs. I've noticed with these lights that even when just on low beams I can read the road signs very nicely.

If you're using RHD (JDM) HID in the USA then the flare will be on the wrong side, and you will be annoying head-on traffic to the point they might flash their lights at you or evince dissatisfaction in other ways.

I have a friend who has JDM HID in his car, and it's extremely annoying trying to lead him anywhere or approaching him head on. It's just not right.

I guess you could adjust the aim, but there's no point in having HID if they're aimed like fog lights, IMHO.

 

The JDM or UK projectors are RHD. here is what they look like at ~5 feet:



Notice A) how the flare in the cutoff is to the left and B) the flare is like a Triangle

This is the LHD CTR projecors from 15 feet:



Notice how A) the flare goes to the right and B) how little the flare is compared to the JDM/UK flare

The LHD have a "DOT" flare, the socalled ____|------- is legal in the US.

The RHD have a "ECE" Euro code flare and it goes --------\________ it is much higher and lights up signs and the side of the road alot more.

The ECE flare exascerbates the problem with oncoming traffic.

The Flare is basically for signs, and to put a little more light where you are not. i.e. if you're on the left side of the car, the flare is on the right because it's opposite you... same for RHD, it's on the opposite side so you can see the side of the road, deer etc..

You will pass any saftey inspection they can throw at you. There is absolutely nothing illegal about these lights, they were meant for our cars and are absolutely NOT blue bulbs or ricer by any means. But saftey inspectors are saftey inspectors and they give kids a hard time, if they give you a problem with these, they wouldn't have passed you if you had driven the car straight off the lot to his inspection bay where he is presumed deity.

I will help anyone who buys these lights from me install them if they drive to my place. I already did one install all by myself, and at 900$ it's not worth it to do it all myself, you gotta get dirty with me. I will be out sourcing the harnesses which cost 50-100$ depending on your year of your vehicle. However they are plug and play with the harness.

Anybody who ever wants to talk to me about lighting can hit me up on AIMs, don't have to buy anything from me. But if you're buying something from me I will give those people some help physically, and of course as much email/IM support as they need (hopefully not much! it shouldn't be that hard)

If you want to make your own harness, I will provide schematics/circuit diagrams so you can make your own. I just haven't gotten around to writing it down... but I should before I forget.

The ones people are buying for 550$ are Halogen and do not have HID components. The projectors are the same, however they do not have the same mounting... you should be able to get by with a regular D2S HID OEM kit, but it will be RHD and not sealed...

It's funny you said they were 550$ because I had thought they were 600$ for the longest time... and I don't want to say I had anythig to do with it, but I think the 900$ was a good deal for what the unspoken price "rule" for JDM projectors... I don't mean to be rude to any vendors, but if you followed ephatch any, I was begging and pleading for the Vendors to import LHD projectors, and one actually had the audacity to reply with "Great news, I just got some UK CTR Projectors in, 600$ gimmie a call and I'll get them out to you."

I hope as a side effect of me selling the LHD ones, that people stop buying the JDM/UKDM ones, forcing the vendors to bring in the right ones. I mean you can't even buy a HID KIT for 300$ not even a crappy off brand one, none the less the OEM sealed version, Xenondepot charges 500$ for an OEM quality HID kit...

You CAN convert JDM proctors to LHD by buying a set of TSX projectors and swapping them out.